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Simonson
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« on: January 16, 2008, 06:24:59 PM »

Hi everyone (quick introduction - i'm simonson a harmo monk from xeth)

I'd just like to mention something i have noticed whilst raiding as monk.
We are of course useful for pulling, debuffing and perhaps CC in some situations, but are we in fact the highest dps class?  laugh
With the significant amount of buffs you get...if you are well geared, and just go "all out", you will draw aggro from the tank....or rather non-monk dps classes would. With a few well placed FDs we can basically maintain an almost maximum damage output.
I'm sure other dps classes (rogue, sorc, whatever) can get more burst dps at times but their de-taunts just don't compare to FD.

So i pose the question: Is monk objectively the most dps in a raid?
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 09:17:11 PM »

Nope just the most agro.

We dont have an passive hate debuff like rogues (constant -30% at 50 i think) and they have more ways of transfering hate then we do.  WE HAVE to FD to drop agro, no way around it and we have no way of reducing agro other then fd.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 11:00:32 PM »

Also for harmonious monks we not only have the damage agro, we also have the debuff agro from our attacks.

We are liikely close to the highest dps though, as secret of fire is doing 1200 point hits for me with 2s delay weapons when I'm fully buffed with all of the +int buffs (except on the fire resistant mobs of course).  Add to that the free fists of celerity buffs from the APW armor, and you can do some pretty good damage.

I put up the 5 debuffs at the start of the fight and then instantly feign, followed by another feign about 30s later in the fight.  That usually prevents me from drawing agro unless you're fighting one of the mobs that has the agro-wipe stun on the tank.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2008, 01:57:35 AM »

More a less the same as rhiadd, tho i dont think debuffs are drawing much agro at all.
Im getting debuffs on before the call to attack. throw in some FD before going for it. then with quickening jolt with celerity buff we can really lay down some serious damage! and can do so without taking agro. (poor rangers)
Its hard to say for sure with parsers being borked. But i wouldn't mind betting that were No 1 DPS on the raid.

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2008, 01:00:11 PM »

I dont think any one can say for sure where we rank as a result of the poor messaging from the combat spam especially given the issues with Errant Strikes and Celerity. From my expiriences i'd like to say 1 

We still spike the highest but that doesnt equate to top dps.

I actually had a conversation with a person who parsed a monk doing more dps than a raid boss. Wile impressive  I dont think we should exactly trust parsed numbers just yet.

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2008, 08:18:14 AM »


I actually had a conversation with a person who parsed a monk doing more dps than a raid boss. Wile impressive  I dont think we should exactly trust parsed numbers just yet.

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well i think a lot of classes can pull off more or equal dps to a raidboss. but considering mob and tank hp is quite different that doesnt mean anything  Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2008, 11:15:35 AM »

We are usally 3rd if all things are considered.

Rogue/ranger, then monk. Rogue and ranger will flop back and forth depending on the mob.

Thats my expierience, take it for what it's worth  Smiley
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