So havent heard anything from you or any developers since a week before christmas, and i was wondering a few things.

1) When are they planing to reevaluate monk stances since currently they are all fubared (dragons offensive and drunkens defensive most notably)
2) Sun dragons corona,,, any word on when its going to be made into something useful? (personally i dont care what as long as its a dps tool and not an ae)
3) Are there plans to increase the non ae dmg of dragons or are we now planed to sit second seat to harmonious monks?
4) Are there any plans to make secret of transendence something like fire/ice where its perma on....if not can we atleast get the jin cost lowered.
5) Can we get the areas for reed in the wind changed to reflect the fact that they are gained at lower levels now
6) Dragons breath is still rediculously useless i know a dmg increase was planed any word on how much and when?  Its a  long timer on a skill that does very low dmg atm.
7)Drunken needs foolhardy swager fixed, i THINK the tank is resisting the hate gain portion atm not 100% but that might explain why they arent receiving the hate
Drunken slap hands is currently doing dmg to the drunken monk and not the target.  In fact we take double dmg, once from the hit we are supposed to be blocking, and again for the counter attack that hits us.  Is this skill supposed to completly block attacks?  cause the block message on tanks means the hit does 0 dmg not still hits us.
9) Can errant strike be checked, i have a hard time getting it to fire off if im the defensive target (which was how i used to use it to gain ae agro control) or even changed to just make it so all attacks ae, regardless of who the defensive target is?

Thats all for now....
theres other things like storm stride being buged if the mobs backs on a wall, etc but those are more general bugs

Im still curious to find out how ppl consider Harmonious as the highest dps of the 3 masteries.
Personally, I think their stances are way too harsh to even be appealing.  The Tiger stance alone is pointless at higher lvls.  The crit rate of a higher monk is already high with the gear + buffs leaving the stance useless.  Crane is mediocre at best(my opinion).  Negative Endurance costs, Negative dmg.  It sorta evens its self out but just making you less dmging.

What makes them the "top" form? What am I missing here besides the debuffs?

Errant strikes is very fussy. Sometimes it wont do anything, certain mobs it never works (Shylosia). Even after dropping both offensive and defensive targets and re-targeting the appropriate targets it still doesn't trigger. I think if the defensive target switches targets (or gets taunted) it fails. Also the buff rarely shows up on success or fail. Definately worth looking into why its failing as much as it is. Only getting use out of the ability maybe 80% of the time....and never on certain mobs.

Defense stance not dps.

The one with -end cost AND +parry/dodge

THe north wind line basicly make the mob take 300 dmg everytime they attack ANYone (reverse damage shield)

Drunken has the most damage FINISHERS but the weakest regular attacks, but that just means drunken is only viable for dps at lvl 46+.  As far as skills go dragon get a 1800 dmg dot and harmonious get a 6k dot.  harmonious gets melee + dmg attacks and drunken gets a single 75% weapon + x dmg attack

Im pretty sure it does still debuff str.  The tool tips might have changed slightly but im pretty sure it does.

Can someone tell me what the dmg loss on lvl 50 deffensive stance is? Cause i cant remember any loss of dmg at the lvl 50 stance.

Endurance Attacks (dragon/harm/drunken)
Melee + 300 (ae) / ----------/---------- -------> Winner: Dragon by default but ae are worthless imho
1.7k dmg per 16 sec / 32 second str debuff, 4dmg over time and 2k on finish  / 230 dmg + forces the target to attack for 2 hits --> winner: harmonious
melee +302 / 239 dmg and minus 15% mitigation of target for 25s/ 75% weapon dmg +150---> winner dragon
Overall Ignoreing the ae since i dont consider it a viable form of dps, Dragon wins one and harmonious wins one, both of which the drunken cant compete, their 230+ force attack is now 30 second reuse and their other one is 75% weapon dmg.   Harmonious dot is 2 times the duration and OVER 2 times the dmg.  The third attack is debatable the + melee dmg gives dragons an edge, but the 15% mitigation debuff adds more dmg to all attacks for the next 25s which is arguable way better.  Overal id call it a tie.

Addition to standard monk finishers
350% (weapon+330) (AE)- follows divine ae line (30s reuse)
melee + 635 dmg - follows flying kick line (instant)
3x (melee +150) ----->3x( melee +177)   (TWO additional attacks to thousand fist one at 46 other at 50)
Overall Clear cut winner is drunken, with max refresh haste they can do it every 30 second.  Dragons doesnt even count because its an ae and 95% of the time aes are a no no.  Harmonious thus comes in second because the over all dmg per reuse time is incredibly nice.  Winner Drunken

Defensive Finishers (Dragon/harm/drunken
330 dmg + 3sec (ae) / 615 dmg, -15% target speed, increase self by 15%/ Melee + 500 (AE)
Winner: Harmonois their defensive finisher is instant reuse and not an ae.  Even if you do count ae, drunkens ae is melee + 500, dragons is just 330 + 3sec stun, both on a 1 min timer.  Winner Harmonious

Finishers- Original:
Melee +527, increase dmg of next atk by 50% ---4> k dmg over 6 sec
melee +530 dmg , reduces target dmg by 150 for 30 sec---->melee + 500 dmg, target takes 300 dmg every time it attacks for 30 sec
melee + 530, next hit garuntes crit-----> weapon dmg + 540
Winner: Tough call with changes to jin surge.  Dragons  melee dot didnt get much of an increase, not like PEH, deadly adder, or feet of the fire dragon, all of which basicly doubled.  overall id say harmonious has the slight edge for dps if the mob isnt being stuned / slowed alot otherwise id give to dragon.  Simply because even if a mob only attacks every 2 seconds for 30 seconds thats 4500 additional dmg and puts harmonious way up there compared to dragon.
Winner: Tie harmonious/dragon, with harmonious winning if the mobs attacking and not being stuned a lot

Conclusions
Endurance attacks: Winner Tie dragon/harmonious
Finishers (additions to current): Drunken> harmonious > dragon
Finishers (defensive): Harmonious
Finishers (unique): Tie dragon/harmonious

Personally it should be
End attacks: Winner Dragon by long shot/ harm second/ drunken 3rd (this categorie wont take to much just slightly upping the dmg on regular attacks)
Finishers (additions to current): Wouldnt touch this, i hate ae's but we are stuck with the divine line as dragons, only suggestion would be to make it a 10 sec reuse line
Finishers (defensive): Drunken --add a plus hate to it and make it 15 or 30 sec reuse.  and reduce dragons reuse timer to about 15/30......theres no way a 3 sec stun + 300 dmg should be 1 min reuse and a 600 dmg 15 slow/haste is instant reuse.
Finishers (original): Dragons needs its dmg uped on the second hit for sure they should be king of this categorie no matter what, harmonious should be a clear second which they would be if dragon was just uped.  6k dot over 5 seconds would seem reasonable at 50 our regular hits are for 2k+ every 2 seconds...

Not even gonna touch the stances, but we all know harmonious defensive stance is the clear winner at 50

When you guys mention Harm having a 6k dot.. You mean 6k per tick or 6k total dmg? just curious

The issue is not the fact that Harmonious dot is superior, it is after all just one attack.  The problem is, as Fuj has shown, the rest of the Dragons repetoire does not have the damage they should, to the extent that they don't even make up for the one Harmonious attack.  Though Im not sure why the Dragons dot is so weak-1800 over 16 seconds isn't exactly mass damage, in fact 6k in 32 seconds is not exactly all that powerful in the grand scheme of things, so the Dragon dot being so weak is certainly strange

I have only tried dragon and drunken so far and after having changed to drunken i cant say i feel the urge to try harmo. I just love drunken monk when pulling APW.
1: they are much more dps on a long fight than dragon due to errant strikes and 4 hits of the thousand fists line
2: the 100% dodge for 15 seconds really makes a huge difference when pulling.

On a sidenote id like to curse SOE from here to eternity for nerfing drunken AE and single force aggro abilities