It's more DPS vs. Less Hit Points route. It's viable for group play, For raiding I think the jury is still out although the general consensus is HPs > All.

I personally use a 1/2 Elf STR / DEX / INT build and during my FD / pull testing and Tanking testing I have not had any significant problems getting the job done.

~QTM

No melee immunity or Ignore pain rune down your'e going to get speedbumped there extra 300 hps or not  . Try it in Storm Dragon Stance for added difficulty!

~QTM

I broke down and made a ... bah the desert race that starts near khal i can never remeber their name, morbedi?

Well anyway, i made one of "those" monks, so that i could do a 5str 5int 4dex build dragon monk to see how much this would effect my secret's damage.

For fun i made 5 +health Intell jewlery, and his intell at 17 is almost 100, and his str is 108, dex in the 80's i think, and he is a dps beast using crapy starter gear, no twinking beyond the Uncommon crafted jewlery.

You know how the secrets list a much higher damage on the trainer, at the "base" damage? Im almost to that damage now, as it listed 98 or so and im now up to 96 i think, ill log in and check later, but it really does make a noticable increase considering its added damage to every single hit.

Try it with Aluul's Claws (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1349453/), they got a 1.85 Speed. Should do the trick.

Or Arazmus Ones from NN, with 1.95 Speed http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1393168/

Or this one 1.85 Speed  http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1349454/

But probably this will involve some farming.

I got the calculator out and i figure it like this -

2.0sec global cooldown less 25% refresh haste from aum kor gives a GC of 1.5s to beat.

2.25s speed crafted wraps less 35% melee haste gives a speed of 1.46 and should work.

Something tells me it won't though.

I know that when i run with the same wraps aum ti and steal the wind i should be on GC 2.0 and attack speed 1.91 and that dosn't work.

Maybe pnig has something to do with it.

I'm interested to know if melee haste has a cap like spell haste. Spell haste caps at 50%, 30 from buffs and 20 from gear.

I guess it could be tested with a bard as 10% haste from aum kor and 15% from steal the wind + 20% from a bard song could equal 45% haste and should work but if it doesn't haste buffs would have a cap?

I'm sorry if i've derailed your thread alittle here, but if i was to pull points from con and put them in int i would also want to get the best possible effect from that int and this is how i would want to do it. So its sort of on topic

Thanks fuji.

Secret of Fire at 50 caps out at 600 high side damage accoriding to the tooltip. Just FYI incase anyone was curious.