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Pusur
Desciple
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Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #15 on:
February 13, 2008, 03:36:43 PM »
There is no doubt monks have been screwed over so hard in apw gearwise. Seen armor and weapons from most mobs in there now + a few links from other sites from basement. Have yet to see a weapon worth bidding on in apw. I see lots of really cute hammers and axes. One of them is a 1hander with 310 max dmg. Monks get the finger and has to get those skanky knuckles at best. They could at least have made the senator claws a lifetap weapon..... Its really sad. Not even a decent 2hander so far that ive seen. Add to that.....most medium armor that drops is healerarmor....
Im saving dkp at least cause there is S H I T and nothing to spend it on
/finger back at soe
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Fujitsu
Sensei
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Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #16 on:
February 13, 2008, 05:01:21 PM »
1) Senator claws ARE a life tap weapon that LT for up to1k and add jin
http://vanguard.xanadu-community.com/items.php?page=viewItem&id=268
2) We get a fabled weapon that adds lifetap/endurance/energy (to defensive target) when it procs
http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1477509_vgclient2007123020270191.jpg
And the weapon your refering to is an axe which has the best MAX hit but its minimum hit is way lower. Look at the average hit (min+max/2) if you want to compare them. Although our fabled fist does need to be uped in dmg and stats, it should be way better then that axe (aka 2-3 more dps, more dmg modifier etc)
http://vanguard.xanadu-community.com/items.php?page=viewItem&id=127
legendary knuckle - - - Fabled Knuckle - - - Legendary axe
avg dmg 172 - - - 180 - - - 222
For monks to get the same average dmg hit we would have to litterally add +60 dmg to minimum and maximum dmg hits on the legendary claw, and 50 on the fabled.
1) I know the fist weapons are faster
2) i know they are fixing auto attack so faster weapons and melee haste are "more valuable"
*However people neglect that 90% of dps comes from skills and the top dmg weapon is the best one 99.9999% of the time.
3) Is 0.55 seconds slower really merit a weapon to be 50 more dps then a same teir weapon? Even if auto attack and haste worked, wed just be hitting weak and fast.
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Simonson
Master
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Posts: 97
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #17 on:
February 13, 2008, 05:42:23 PM »
Quote from: Pusur on February 13, 2008, 03:36:43 PM
There is no doubt monks have been screwed over so hard in apw gearwise. Seen armor and weapons from most mobs in there now + a few links from other sites from basement. Have yet to see a weapon worth bidding on in apw. I see lots of really cute hammers and axes. One of them is a 1hander with 310 max dmg. Monks get the finger and has to get those skanky knuckles at best. They could at least have made the senator claws a lifetap weapon..... Its really sad. Not even a decent 2hander so far that ive seen. Add to that.....most medium armor that drops is healerarmor....
Im saving dkp at least cause there is S H I T and nothing to spend it on
/finger back at soe
Agree 100%, even some of the "legendary" class specific armor from ore/mold is worse than crafted/quested lol wth?
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Draxs
Grandmaster
Karma: +9/-4
Posts: 128
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #18 on:
February 14, 2008, 08:04:31 AM »
The auto attack fix might very well mean more to us than any other class seeing as we get our secret damage per attack. I would not dismiss fast weapons and haste so early. Maybe once we see it in action many views will change.
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Draxs
50 Dragon Monk
Brotherhood of the Spider
Xeth
RhoShan
Master
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Posts: 91
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #19 on:
February 14, 2008, 08:23:40 AM »
it's that 'Might' part that both fills me with hope, and makes me think... enjoy it while it lasts...
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Draxs
Grandmaster
Karma: +9/-4
Posts: 128
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #20 on:
February 14, 2008, 09:03:50 AM »
Quote from: Simonson on February 13, 2008, 05:42:23 PM
Quote from: Pusur on February 13, 2008, 03:36:43 PM
There is no doubt monks have been screwed over so hard in apw gearwise. Seen armor and weapons from most mobs in there now + a few links from other sites from basement. Have yet to see a weapon worth bidding on in apw. I see lots of really cute hammers and axes. One of them is a 1hander with 310 max dmg. Monks get the finger and has to get those skanky knuckles at best. They could at least have made the senator claws a lifetap weapon..... Its really sad. Not even a decent 2hander so far that ive seen. Add to that.....most medium armor that drops is healerarmor....
Im saving dkp at least cause there is S H I T and nothing to spend it on
/finger back at soe
Agree 100%, even some of the "legendary" class specific armor from ore/mold is worse than crafted/quested lol wth?
I honestly did not think a single piece of the legendary was worse than any of the crafted. I was full crafed cavaliers jagged and am now only 2 items short of full Legendary (BP/Legs). Which items specificaly were you reffering to that are better than the legendary class set?
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Draxs
50 Dragon Monk
Brotherhood of the Spider
Xeth
Pusur
Desciple
Karma: +0/-1
Posts: 45
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #21 on:
February 14, 2008, 11:35:15 AM »
The mold armor is no doubt better than crafted armor. But thats about it....nothing else really worth looking for in apw. Dont mention the clicky shuriken pouch please:) I know its a good drop but nothing i need as i have wardship clicky which is better imo....adds fire resist and has better range. Range > damage on shurikens.
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Draxs
Grandmaster
Karma: +9/-4
Posts: 128
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #22 on:
February 15, 2008, 07:32:54 AM »
Yeah, the mold armor is the best for monk in APW in most all slots.
The Dragon has atleast 1 slot that is better and is a substantial upgrade to our mold in said slot. But yeah, that's all I have seen.
I like it that way though. I preffer the look of the set gear so I am glad it is the best stats. So i don't have to have such mismatched gear.
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Draxs
50 Dragon Monk
Brotherhood of the Spider
Xeth
Swang
Master
Karma: +0/-1
Posts: 83
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #23 on:
February 15, 2008, 08:56:21 AM »
The way i see it is that the 7 peice set bonus is the way to go. And is worth it alone for the Celerity Bonus proc!
That leaves us 2 slots free for alternative raid mob Armour.
Although i have to agree, I have yet to see the Monk "Whos Ya Daddy " weapon. Maybe it will come from this dragon? maybe from another GU4 Raid Mob?
Who knows,? at the moment its nothing worth getting uptight about.
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Simonson
Master
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Posts: 97
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #24 on:
February 15, 2008, 06:24:37 PM »
Quote from: Draxs on February 14, 2008, 09:03:50 AM
I honestly did not think a single piece of the legendary was worse than any of the crafted. I was full crafed cavaliers jagged and am now only 2 items short of full Legendary (BP/Legs). Which items specificaly were you reffering to that are better than the legendary class set?
The APW Mold arms
:
http://vanguard.xanadu-community.com/images/items/45.gif
Crafted arms
:
http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/934830/
...granted less ac/hp but a good deal more crit, and "general" crit, not just melee. So melee+secrets+ranged
Flare Totem
:
http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1350849/
...as harmonious i'd take this over both the others :S
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Fujitsu
Sensei
Karma: +20/-20
Posts: 803
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #25 on:
February 15, 2008, 06:41:39 PM »
arms are by far the worst piece, but i would say a full suit of 7 pieces of this stuff is well worth it.
you may lose some crit from main armor, but you gain an uber fist of celerity proc (ala double dmg) and theres other items in apw that easily bring you back to the crit cap
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Fujitsu
Sensei
Karma: +20/-20
Posts: 803
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #26 on:
February 22, 2008, 12:55:09 PM »
Just thought id add a note
5 pieces = 5% chance to proc fist of celerity (duration 10s)
My test toon has the full suit and i can honestly say 5 pieces is plenty, the 7 piece reward is lame.
Parts you cant really replace cause the class set is the best for that slot, some of them like the helm have alternativse that drop in apw, but for the most part are far inferior to our class set.
Belt, gloves, helm, boots, legs, wrist
slots you can replace without losing anything
arms -- siliasaurus are probably the best imho, although there are 4 droped in apw to pick from
chest -- crafted bp from apw/jagurns droped bp (not that the crafted bp is only slightly better, but id still take it)
shoulder -- kotasoth shoulders (+11 end and +dmg rating)
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Kivik
Grandmaster
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Posts: 106
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #27 on:
February 22, 2008, 03:20:50 PM »
Kota also has a bad ass pair of boots"boots of Blackness".worn effect is +5pct evade and increase runspeed
stats are 163 ac, 17 str,34 dex,102 hp,+22 Melee evasion(0.59%),+77 Damage rating(2.08%)---yes straight Damage..not just melee rating.
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Fujitsu
Sensei
Karma: +20/-20
Posts: 803
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #28 on:
February 22, 2008, 07:52:24 PM »
yeah ill post pictures later tonight, nookie time then ill pop on test and get the ss of the ideal set of monk gear ;-p
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Swang
Master
Karma: +0/-1
Posts: 83
Re: knuckles from APW
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Reply #29 on:
February 23, 2008, 09:27:13 AM »
Quote from: Kivik on February 22, 2008, 03:20:50 PM
Kota also has a bad ass pair of boots"boots of Blackness".worn effect is +5pct evade and increase runspeed
stats are 163 ac, 17 str,34 dex,102 hp,+22 Melee evasion(0.59%),+77 Damage rating(2.08%)---yes straight Damage..not just melee rating.
I saw another Monk on Halgar with these Boots, tells be they dropped from Zaygius!
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