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« on: November 05, 2007, 04:00:08 PM »

VGBards is hosting a feedback session for all medium class armor wearers.  I have posted screenshots of all six sets of medium class armor sets (Bard, Disciple, Monk, Ranger, Rogue, Shaman) and will be collecting feedback on each set. All feedback gathered will be forwarded / read by the APW Developers in order to help facilitate their class set itemization.  Please continue reading and then click the link below to view the screenshots and offer your opinions. 


There are a few notes regarding armor sets:

1.  They are only Beta versions of the armor set and are based off of initial player feedback.  They are not the final version nor are they reflective of the final version.  The provided feedback threads will help to better tune them to each specific class.

2.  It was decided today (Nov 5) that all class armor sets would be made class specific.  Therefore, you will not be able to mix and match from other class sets (ie..discple's can't wear the monk set).  They will be specifically designed for the class that they are intended for.  Keep that in mind when you see multiple classes listed as being able to wear the items. 

3.  The armor sets are NOT designed to be the end all, be all gear for APW.  Boss mobs will be itemized to drop 1 pattern for the quested armor per kill.  The harder the boss, the better the pattern type.  Think of these more as filler armor until you get the really rare item you want.  As such, they will be very general in adapting to a class...ie, they will reflect the over all rounded stats of a class as opposed to focusing on one aspect of a class. 


APW Medium Class Armor Set Review

Thanks!

Sung Entune - Bard Class Lead - VGBards.com
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 04:10:36 PM »

Um few things i saw that i think need addressed

1) That table sucked, i thought monks had wisdom and energy on our gear lol.

2) we have the most dex, cool, and the only medium to get int, cool for secrets

3) the most crits, cool beans

4)The second most melee dmg cool beans

Lack of other effects is kinda lame, and what do full suits of this armor do?
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 05:26:09 PM »

Please respond at VGBard's in the discussion thread.  Dev's will be checking the 5  posts I have created for feedback.   Thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2007, 07:34:34 PM »

right up your ally fujistu!!!! 4 hour raid time no thats not when the raiding gonna start thats how long ur gonna be raiding  4-5 nites a week. Grin

so bring your trusty claculater and some extra batteries your gonna need it, dont think solapower gonna work in APW  2funny.

didnt it say stats were based on full set? also noticed it said pattern drop so it needs to be crafted ..if so maybe the stats improve as u complete the sets?

maybe each piece only give certain % of the damage ect till all peices are worn for a 100% damage stat?

anyways any bets on blades of wraith wiping on there first try when  apw goes live? angel

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2007, 07:47:10 PM »

The table was so terrible, in fact, that I simply couldn't selectively copy and paste into another program to resolve it. I might have a look at this tomorrow if I'm really motivated. I've already registered and posted what I'm posting here now.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2007, 10:04:44 PM »

The table was so terrible, in fact, that I simply couldn't selectively copy and paste into another program to resolve it. I might have a look at this tomorrow if I'm really motivated. I've already registered and posted what I'm posting here now.

I've reformatted the chart so it wraps more easily, but it's not really copy / pastable so check it out again when you get the chance and let me know how it looks.  I've also gone ahead and made the table available in Excel Spreadsheet format on Google Docs:  http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pxHmsrMOAWOJnuVfp78UtUA   (I think i did, first time using it so let me know if it's not letting you view and I'll try and get it hosted on vgbards)


anyways any bets on blades of wraith wiping on there first try when  apw goes live? angel

Probably, and with 200+ people in the entrance foyers, I would imagine everyone else will to.  Not sure what that has to do with the present conversation, but that's my 2 cents. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 05:05:12 AM »

My only issue with the monk set was the lack of HP thru con or direct hp on it.
With my current setup on raid test(98 pct i have on live ) i lost about 600 hp.
For the effort it takes for this gear it drasticaly improves all aspects of areas except the hp,
while to some of you this might seem minimal i would say that during pulls even at 10kish hp i was being 1-2shot on many pulls ..espec the caster mobs who tend to not come at you instead they range you.
HP will be very much needed inside of APW
Other then that small issue the monk gear was well though out
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 06:11:45 AM »

What does the equiped effect "hopton's set of effluence" do?
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 06:54:51 AM »

To be determined at a later date.

Your feedback guides the class right now so keep the feed back coming along. I snagged a suit of this stuff and so far I am impressed.

I'd like to see as effects,

  • + jin Regen
  • max Jin bonus
  • Soaring Leap like ability (I'd love to ditch my xenn boots but they have WAY too much utility right now even at 50.
  • Stat buff Str, Dex, Int
  • rune effect
  • enlarge our storm stride range
  • Spell Mitigation / immuninty to movement impiarements (root / stun)

I'll prolly add this to the bard stie a little later on today.

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 06:59:29 AM »

My only issue with the monk set was the lack of HP thru con or direct hp on it.
With my current setup on raid test(98 pct i have on live ) i lost about 600 hp.
For the effort it takes for this gear it drasticaly improves all aspects of areas except the hp,
while to some of you this might seem minimal i would say that during pulls even at 10kish hp i was being 1-2shot on many pulls ..espec the caster mobs who tend to not come at you instead they range you.
HP will be very much needed inside of APW
Other then that small issue the monk gear was well though out

In some of my testing I have been using ignore pain 2.0 on nasty pulls (lvl 52+ 6dots hehehe)  as you'll mitigate a healthy chunk of dmg for 20 sec.. You wont last too much longer but youll get to where you need to be.

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 07:10:29 AM »

What does the equiped effect "hopton's set of effluence" do?

They have not yet decided/disclosed what the various effects will be. They will however increase as you wear more of the pieces. All subject to change obviously.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2007, 08:30:07 AM »

IN  addition I  wouldl like to seein this order of preferance added to already said armour.

endurance regen
rune
spell mitigation /  evasion
root / stun immunity
dodge
jin regen
parry


but not sure who the rest of yo feel on those, but then again I am drunken style

and a idea I like but inpractical would to be have several options available if there is a craftable upgrade. Meaning haivng the stats in different order of high to low for differeent styles / personal preferance. I like a bit of variety and non cookie cutter type things if at all possible.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2007, 10:08:41 AM »

IN  addition I  wouldl like to seein this order of preferance added to already said armour.

endurance regen
rune
spell mitigation /  evasion
root / stun immunity
dodge
jin regen
parry


but not sure who the rest of yo feel on those, but then again I am drunken style

and a idea I like but inpractical would to be have several options available if there is a craftable upgrade. Meaning haivng the stats in different order of high to low for differeent styles / personal preferance. I like a bit of variety and non cookie cutter type things if at all possible.

Not trying to discredit your wishlist, but we all need to remeber this is the very firt raid zone in what will hopefully be a very long lasting MMO, That being said the Dev's seem to be very wisely not just piling on stats to the gear. If they do that what will be left to give us later?

I personaly have not a single complain with the gear. It is very well thought out IMO. The best thing about it is that there is lots of room for improvements such as listed above.

Alot of the suggested changes would be aweome to have but would also create the kind of gear you would never want to replace; which is a bad thing in the MMO world. As most of us know once you get that since of completion players tend to move on.

Being the very first raid loot to be introduced I think they did an excelent job with it. no doubt it is superior to what we have while at the same time not over-done.

Also remeber as far as loosing HP or orther stats you might like, you currently can wear the other medium classes armor if you so choose.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2007, 10:16:59 AM »

I agree that will need to be some kind of progression with gear.but, also keep in mind that aside from Tiraslee most of the dev team dont play monks outside of a quick test on something in the dev environment. We as the monk community need to be the guiding hand here. This way  they (The dev team)  know that this kind of stuff interests us so that long term some of these can end up on gear down the road.

~QTM


What deadline...... lol
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2007, 10:38:32 AM »

Just a quick correction. It is stated on VG bards that as of yesterday you will not be able to wear other classes Armor anymore as I had originaly posted.
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