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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2007, 05:40:33 AM »

yeah after playing on test, going back to live is a pain.  I lose a crap ton of damage.

However i did go to NN last night and got a good 20+ failed fd in there, shame i forgot to turn logs on... sigh ill do it again tonight.
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« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2007, 08:43:02 PM »

I think ive narrowed it down (QTM you owe me 30+ deaths worth of exp :-p)

So far each failed fd is accompanied by a late hit that then causes the mob to "see through fd" and regain agro, which then reagros all the local mobs.

Example:
You cast feign death 3.
1-2 seconds later-> Ancient mummy's /slow cast ability hits you
All mobs in vacinity to you/mob reagro ill post a log or two in a sec


[21:38:22] [21:38] Vivified Trader hits you for <highlight>335</color> damage.
[21:38:32] [21:38] Everyone thinks you're dead.
[21:38:38] [21:38] <RED>You are struck by Shock of Disease for 579 points of damage.
[21:38:39] [21:38] You dodge Crypt Watcher's attack.
[21:38:39] [21:38] You parry Vivified Trader's attack.
[21:38:40] [21:38] Feign Death III has been toggled off.

Thats 6 seconds from feign till the time the spell landed, im not sure of the cast time, but that spell landing is what reagroed me.  Ill try to get a few more for you

heres another
[21:52:04] [21:52] Vivified Trader begins to cast a spell.
[21:52:04] [21:52] Slave of Nusibe begins to cast a spell.
[21:52:04] [21:52] Vivified Trader begins to cast a spell.
[21:52:04] [21:52] Everyone thinks you're dead.
[21:52:08] [21:52] Slave of Nusibe's <highlight>Disease of the Ancients</color> hits you for <highlight>412</color> damage.
[21:52:08] [21:52] Slave of Nusibe's <highlight>Disease of the Ancients</color> hits you for <highlight>412</color> damage.
[21:52:08] [21:52] Slave of Nusibe begins to cast a spell.
[21:52:08] [21:52] Vivified Trader's <highlight>Disease of the Ancients</color> hits you for <highlight>413</color> damage.
[21:52:08] [21:52] Vivified Trader's <highlight>Disease of the Ancients</color> hits you for <highlight>413</color> damage.
[21:52:08] [21:52] Vivified Trader begins to cast a spell.
[21:52:08] [21:52] You parry Crypt Watcher's attack.
[21:52:09] [21:52] <BLUE>Your damage shield hits Crypt Watcher for 40 damage.
[21:52:09] [21:52] Feign Death III has been toggled off.



and a third (right after the previous, seperated log so you can clearly see that casting is breaking the feign
[21:52:08] [21:52] Slave of Nusibe begins to cast a spell.
[21:52:08] [21:52] Vivified Trader begins to cast a spell.
[21:52:10] [21:52] Crypt Watcher hits you for <highlight>400</color> damage.
[21:52:10] [21:52] You parry Awakened Guard's attack.
[21:52:10] [21:52] <RED>You are struck by Shock of Disease for 585 points of damage.
[21:52:10] [21:52] Vivified Trader begins to cast a spell.
[21:52:11] [21:52] You parry Crypt Watcher's attack.
[21:52:11] [21:52] Everyone thinks you're dead.
[21:52:12] [21:52] Slave of Nusibe's <highlight>Disease of the Tomb</color> hits you for <highlight>391</color> damage.
[21:52:12] [21:52] Slave of Nusibe's <highlight>Disease of the Tomb</color> hits you for <highlight>391</color> damage.
[21:52:12] [21:52] Vivified Trader's <highlight>Plague of the Tomb</color> hits you for <highlight>390</color> damage.
[21:52:12] [21:52] Vivified Trader's <highlight>Plague of the Tomb</color> hits you for <highlight>390</color> damage.


Conclusion If a mob starts casting a slow cast ability before you feign, theres a chance they will continue to cast after you feign, when the cast lands, feign is broken and mobs around you and around the casting mob re agro.  If the spell lands 1-2 seconds after FD, then it appears fd failed, eventhough it worked.
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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2007, 09:40:20 AM »

Should have picked a safer spot =D. VT / Thel the mobs are wusses. lol

To draw the conclusion then it's an old EQ mechanic thats migrated to VG. Being cast on will break a successfull FD.
I was thinking it was a message timing issue however a 2nd look through my logs from VT confirm the theory. Against straight melee mobs I wasn't  breaking FD but against those dumb mothra mobs they were.

hell of a good job there Fujitsu.

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« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2007, 12:42:48 PM »

Cool beans, any word on if its gonna be fixed or if this is the new intended?  Being as it was like this in eq1 for 4+ years and only once they added stonewall did it cancle (stone wall made it so u had a % chance to remain fd even after being cast on)
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« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2007, 12:54:28 PM »

It's not intended Just given the buggy nature of FD prior to the change we just never noticed (encounter)  it. It will however need to go to coding to fix.

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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2007, 02:46:57 PM »

Mad props, Fujitsu ! Glad you figured this one out, cause it's annoying as Foxtrot.
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