Navigation:    Home arrow Forum arrow Monk Discussionarrow Monk Generalarrow Upcoming Monk Changes

User Menu

Welcome Guest.
Lost Password?
No account yet? Register

Main Menu

Home
News
Forum
Search

Class Info

FAQ
Abilities
Quests
Guides

Off-Site Links

Vanguard Official Site
Vanguard Forums
Vanguard Bards
Vanguard Bloodmages
Vanguard Shaman
Vanguard Radio
Vanguard Servers

Polls

What race will you be?
 
What's your favorite martial style?
 
User Info
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
November 22, 2008, 09:35:04 AM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
News Box
Welcome to Vanguard Monks!

Key Stats
9259 Posts in 1001 Topics by 3871 Members
Latest Member: Kyptvygn
Home Help Search Login Register
Vanguard Monks  |  Monk Discussion  |  Monk General  |  Upcoming Monk Changes « previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 11 Print
Author Topic: Upcoming Monk Changes  (Read 13809 times)
Quinn the Mighty
Monk Lead
Kyoshi
Sensei
*****

Karma: +50/-38
Posts: 443

Quinn_The_Mighty@hotmail.com
View Profile Email
« on: October 11, 2007, 03:26:49 PM »
My fellow brothers and sisters,

As a result of the DPS testing and our overwheling abilitiy to point out we need some love, someone finally heard us. I got to spend some time with Talisker and go over some of our much needed changes. Here is some of what is coming down the pipe for us.

Palm Explodes the Heart Chain update- 3 Finger Strike, and Hammer Fist will now have a 50% crit mod built into them so they will crit quite a bit.
  • 3 Finger Stike: Normal Damage (Taliskers testing with a decently equipped monk at about 1500 dmg) adds a -100% evasion debuff on the mob for 8 seconds (1% chance to miss the next 2 steps)
  • Hammer Fist: High Damage (Taliskers testing gave 3Kish in damage) + 6 second stun
  • Palm Explodes the Heart: Stupidly High Damage (Talisker's internal testing put it at 8K) adds a Damage over time component of 1200 over 6 ticks

Here are some additional changes that are eventually coming our way
  • 0 jin cost Storm Stride
  • Damage boost to crescent kick
  • Damage Upgrades to Secrets of Fire / Ice / Transcendance (Proc rate too)
  • 5 min reuse timer on celerity
  • Ashen Hand is going to be 400% weapon damage
  • Divine Tsunami changing to 300% Weapon damage (CRUSHING) 30 seconds reuse timer for all parts of the AE Finishers
  • Dragon Rakes is claws will only cost 25 end
  • Dragon breath boosted damage with 3 min reuse timer and 4 jin cost
  • Aspect of the Spirit Dragon migrating to a end cost over time. It should give you a solid 20-30 seconds of invis. w/o burning your Jin (think FD then repeat as necesssary)
  • Deadly Adder Hand may be converted into a DoT (It's going to keep the debuff portion.) The delayed nuke is an odd thing.
  • Errant Strikes reuse timer reduced to 5 mins

There is more stuff being updated, but he got pulled away for a meeting.

Also quasi related but, I thought I'd share that he also accidently slipped and told me there are going to be dropped versions of abilites in the future. Think of it like a souped up version of an ability. I will try to find out more.

I'll post more info as I get it.

~QTM
« Last Edit: October 11, 2007, 03:33:48 PM by Quinn the Mighty » Logged
Fujitsu
Sensei
*****

Karma: +23/-20
Posts: 847


dustincfoley@live.com dfoley323
View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 03:42:46 PM »
overall not bad, cant wait to test these.
Logged
Fujitsu
Sensei
*****

Karma: +23/-20
Posts: 847


dustincfoley@live.com dfoley323
View Profile Email
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 03:44:03 PM »
On test server atm

- Monk - Significantly increased the damage on Palm Explodes the Heart and added a damage over time component.
- Monk - Significantly increased the damage on Hammer Fist and added an stun component.
- Monk - Significantly increased the damage on Three Finger Strike and added an avoidance debuff component.
Logged
Quinn the Mighty
Monk Lead
Kyoshi
Sensei
*****

Karma: +50/-38
Posts: 443

Quinn_The_Mighty@hotmail.com
View Profile Email
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 03:47:52 PM »
He said he beat the deadline on GU3 phase 1 so it'll get out there quick.

WOOT!
Logged
Khana Kopnisien
Sensei
*****

Karma: +9/-4
Posts: 369



View Profile Email
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 04:01:29 PM »
Sounds good. Any news on the plans for Sun Dragon's Corona?
Logged
Khana Kopnisien  /\  50 Dragon Monk  /\  Lowland Elites  /\  Halgar
Fujitsu
Sensei
*****

Karma: +23/-20
Posts: 847


dustincfoley@live.com dfoley323
View Profile Email
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 04:02:30 PM »
Some other things u didnt mention that im seeing on test.

Three finger strike - melee +1092 (averaging about 2k) 6 sec of -100% evasion
Hammer Fist - melee + 1444 ( 2.5k dmg) + 6 sec stun
PEH - Melee +2.7k (4k) + 0dmg over 10 sec  ----dot description is broken, dot does ~2k every 2 sec (10k total)


Secret of fire/ice --- tada 60 sec duration

None of the other changes have made it to test yet
« Last Edit: October 11, 2007, 04:51:07 PM by Fujitsu » Logged
Fujitsu
Sensei
*****

Karma: +23/-20
Posts: 847


dustincfoley@live.com dfoley323
View Profile Email
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2007, 04:06:47 PM »
I think giving dragon monks a damage shield was retarded personally, id much rather see it turned into a perm +200 dmg buff that stacks with ironhand/secret of flame
Logged
Khana Kopnisien
Sensei
*****

Karma: +9/-4
Posts: 369



View Profile Email
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2007, 05:03:51 PM »
Well, a targetable damage shield wouldn't be bad. And in its current state, it does help when soloing. Making it a + damage buff would remove the resist bonus you get from it in all likelihood.
Logged
Khana Kopnisien  /\  50 Dragon Monk  /\  Lowland Elites  /\  Halgar
Quinn the Mighty
Monk Lead
Kyoshi
Sensei
*****

Karma: +50/-38
Posts: 443

Quinn_The_Mighty@hotmail.com
View Profile Email
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2007, 05:17:47 PM »
I think the descriptions are a bit hosed as I am testing now in Floridel on a Dragon Monk in dragon stance (worst for soloing imo) to gauge the changes.

WOW! Like night and day

I was fighting a level 50 3 dot solo, and took it down w/o too much problems my combat spam below I cut / paste only the PEH portion from my combat text

[19:09:49] Your <highlight>Three Finger Strike</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>3709 (2562+1147)</color> damage.
[19:09:49] Critical hit for an additional 1236 points!
[19:09:52] Your <highlight>Hammer Fist</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>4328 (3200+1128)</color> damage.
[19:09:52] Critical hit for an additional 1443 points!
[19:09:54] Your <highlight>Palm Explodes the Heart</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>7262 (5398+1864)</color> damage.
[19:09:54] Critical hit for an additional 2421 points!
[19:09:54] <HIGHLIGHT>Palm Explodes the Heart</COLOR> deals <HIGHLIGHT>1955</COLOR> damage to Deeproot.
[19:09:56] <HIGHLIGHT>Palm Explodes the Heart</COLOR> deals <HIGHLIGHT>1955</COLOR> damage to Deeproot.
[19:09:58] <HIGHLIGHT>Palm Explodes the Heart</COLOR> deals <HIGHLIGHT>1955</COLOR> damage to Deeproot.
the last 3 tics never got a chance cause the mob died.

P.E.H. is now worth the grind IMO

~QTM
« Last Edit: October 11, 2007, 05:24:22 PM by Quinn the Mighty » Logged
hattori
Guest
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2007, 05:18:31 PM »
dropped abilitys eh?...sounds cool  any chance if the dropped abilty will be for upper lvls only or all lvls   ?

now i think of it i wouldnt of mine if lower lvl if there was a qeust line of diplo to recover a book with an abilty.
and at end of qeust u had to target a mob thru a crack in the door of his house and /say "i will kill you" to get him to come out n fight!!!! 2funny
Logged
Fujitsu
Sensei
*****

Karma: +23/-20
Posts: 847


dustincfoley@live.com dfoley323
View Profile Email
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2007, 06:08:17 PM »
This is with almost the exact same gear/setup quinn used on test, on a liver server vs the same mob. Dragon monk, offensive stance, no secret of celerity. 

Your <highlight>Three Finger Strike</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>878 (627+251)</color> damage.
Your <highlight>Hammer Fist</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>1606 (1083+523)</color> damage.
Critical hit for an additional 535 points!
Your <highlight>Palm Explodes the Heart</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>8934 (6700+2234)</color> damage.
Critical hit for an additional 2975 points!

This was the best run i got, took a 4 trys to get a PEH to crit on atleast 2 of the 3. 
Logged
Quinn the Mighty
Monk Lead
Kyoshi
Sensei
*****

Karma: +50/-38
Posts: 443

Quinn_The_Mighty@hotmail.com
View Profile Email
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2007, 08:14:56 AM »
Quote from: hattori hanzo on October 11, 2007, 05:18:31 PM
dropped abilitys eh?...sounds cool  any chance if the dropped abilty will be for upper lvls only or all lvls   ?

now i think of it i wouldnt of mine if lower lvl if there was a qeust line of diplo to recover a book with an abilty.
and at end of qeust u had to target a mob thru a crack in the door of his house and /say "i will kill you" to get him to come out n fight!!!! 2funny

I don't know much more than that teaser as I don't think he meant to tell me about them, but iI'll try and get more info.

~QTM
« Last Edit: October 12, 2007, 08:18:03 AM by Quinn the Mighty » Logged
Quinn the Mighty
Monk Lead
Kyoshi
Sensei
*****

Karma: +50/-38
Posts: 443

Quinn_The_Mighty@hotmail.com
View Profile Email
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2007, 08:19:54 AM »
Quote from: Fujitsu on October 11, 2007, 06:08:17 PM
This is with almost the exact same gear/setup quinn used on test, on a liver server vs the same mob. Dragon monk, offensive stance, no secret of celerity. 

Your <highlight>Three Finger Strike</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>878 (627+251)</color> damage.
Your <highlight>Hammer Fist</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>1606 (1083+523)</color> damage.
Critical hit for an additional 535 points!
Your <highlight>Palm Explodes the Heart</color> hits Deeproot for <highlight>8934 (6700+2234)</color> damage.
Critical hit for an additional 2975 points!

This was the best run i got, took a 4 trys to get a PEH to crit on atleast 2 of the 3. 

Were you able to kill Deeproot or did you have to FD?

~QTM
Logged
Zebitz
Recruit
*

Karma: +0/-0
Posts: 24



View Profile Email
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2007, 10:39:37 AM »
quinn I have a question but have to say I like what I am seeing here. The damage is goin to be goin up fantastic. But I am a level 30 dragon style monk.

Is our damage at 30 going to go up, right now grouping with friends in game I still can't out damage the damn bard or rogue or ranger for that matter. I don't have that skill yet for the exploding heart move but what should I expect with the update? sorry if this has been asked previously.

Zeb
Logged
Draxs
Grandmaster
****

Karma: +9/-5
Posts: 132



View Profile Email
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2007, 10:59:45 AM »
Good to hear, looks like a nice needed change.
Logged
Draxs
50 Dragon Monk
Brotherhood of the Spider
Xeth
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 11 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.1 | SMF © 2006, Simple Machines LLC
Joomla Bridge by JoomlaHacks.com