Aum Ti, Magnificent Storm Dragon Stance as only buffs, level 48

DW: Strength 453
Damage range: 557-569+271-280 (828-849). Speed: 1.80, 1.95. Avg hit: 838.5
2H: Strength 486, x2 damage on crit (supposedly)
Damage range: 906-1033. Speed 3.25. Avg hit: 969.5

Very limited parse, same type of mobs - but since the damage range is actually so tiny for monks, it still leaves a decent result. I could parse for longer, but not really up for it this late!
DW:
Ashen Hand (crit): 1545+353 (1898), 
Ashen Hand (hit): 1020+237 (1257), 1039+239 (1278)
Flying Kick/Heavens (crit): 1970
Flying Kick/Heavens (hit): 1316, 1298, 1359
Six dragon (hit): 1111
Flying Kick (epic - thus not interesting): 3837

2H:
Ashen Hand (crit): 1918+370 (2288), 1877+362 (2339)
Ashen Hand (hit): 1241+241 (1482), 1184+246 (1430), 1244+243 (1487)
Flying Kick/Heavens (crit): 2013, 1987, 2151
Flying Kick/Heavens (hit): 1397, 1403, 1403
Six Dragon (hit): 1146, 1073

Ashen Hand appears to act decently normal.
Flying Kick is doing higher-than-expected damage (for example with the dualwield, it should do an average of 1381, 5 (DW) and 1512,5 (2H). However, if you assume a mobs mitigation is 20% (appears to be generally true), the flying should do 1105.2 (DW) or 1210 (2H) - but it's actually over that. In addition, the damage diffrence between two-hander crit and dualwield crit is very tiny (2H should have an advantage here with it's x2 weapon damage on crit, about ~180 points of extra damage in this example - it really dosen't - DW dosen't have a large damage range at all).
Six Dragons also made me curious - the diffrence between max damage for DW and minimal for 2H does not allow for intersecting damage results, which it has. This was easily reproducable by just spamming some six dragons, there's virtually no diffrence on the damage while using DW or 2H (despite that the 2H *should* deal more damage). For DW this damage is quite high (considering the expected 20% mitigation of a mob), for 2H it's just a bit over expected damage.
Our damage skills appears a bit hastily done and I'm not sure the tooltip accuratly reflects their real damage.

Would be interesting to see if someone has likewise results or if I'm doing something wrong. ~

This is about what I've noticed.  It seems to me that the 2hd damage should be much higher, as I do not believe the 2x damage on crits is working, nor is the high damage cap on the weapon affecting our skills.  If the 2x damage started working I wouldn't complain, but like I said, I barely notice a difference on my Graystone Bladestaff of Purification (pretty much the best wep in the game for us I guess) against my Claws of Bloodletting/Mighty Fistgrips (like 33 dps and 40 on the handwraps). 

For Handwraps DPS, can you pretty much add both the DPS's up to get a good idea?  Cuz I thought there was a penalty of SOME sort, but maybe not.  I just wish the 2hd bladestaff would be more worth using, as it seems pretty average compared to lower level rare fist weps when it's a level 46 heroic.....

Any word on some form of regen change for pure melees or such? I think thats one of  our main problems with soloing, every other class can either stay out of range or heal.

I was testing the same thing yesterday actually, however, I did not parse it.  I was using boundless fist mainly, and flying kick when I would crit.  Using Bone Shard Ulaks, and Aluul's Claws vs Greystone bladestaff.  On average, BF would hit for about 80-100 dmg less using h2h vs 2handed.  On a critical hit, the damage difference was only about 200 damage, which you would expect their to be a greater disparity considering that the 2hander's get double weapon damage on critical hits (which definetly does not seem to be the case).  Flying kick was giving roughly the same difference in numbers.

I'll try to get a parse for it after class.

Dragon definately needs an advanced finisher. No way they can keep up until its done.
Currently I'm drunken and rely on my 1k fist chain as a good % of my total damage dealt, 36s refresh with max refresh timer. Hardly anything if you consider it takes 5 seconds to finish the chain itself, and gives enough Jin for an Ashen Hand. Only about 25secs noticable between casts.
Harmonious have no cooldown on the advanced kick finisher, altho its significantly less damage then 1k fist chain.

For the most part, I agree.  Getting a 3rd AE finisher pails in comparison to getting a 3rd flying kick, or 3rd and 4th thousand fist.  However, I do disagree with Storm dragon and Tiger being competitive.  I realize that tiger does get a hefty endurance cost added to it, which is much more debilitating than a 16% mitigation decrease.  However, no matter what 25% chance to crit >>>>>>>>>>>>> 24% damage.  Furthermore, in a group setting, you are likely to get a endurance buff which will completely negate the 50% endurance(soon to be reduced) increase.  Additionally, since harmonious crit so often, most of the time they are dealing damage from finishers, which cost 10 end or less (15 in tiger).  The endurance isn't really that big of a deal (at least for my playstyle, when I switched to harmonious for 2 days, the effect on endurance was obvious, however, I spent so much time using finishers that endurance wasn't an issue).  No, please don't nerf harmonious.  Please change the other styles so they can compare to harmonious, because as it stands currently, harmonious offers the best offense, defense, and utility.



I'm not trying to start an inter-monk style ranger vs monk type of war.  As I said before, I'm happy that the devs are finally making some changes to the monk class; however, the changes that are listed on the test notes are poorly thought out and seriously need to be reconsidered to bring all monks into a position where they can be competitive not only with other light fighters, but also with other archetypes as well.