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Shengyi Tsung

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2007, 12:33:29 PM »

Drunken Rage? no way dude =P

Impaired Judgement: You are now so intoxicated you don't even realize you are being hit with spells and ignore 50% of them.


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Shengyi Tsung

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2007, 12:38:49 PM »

I was thinking about this to my obnoxious amusement.....

what if there were Alcohols in the game, they could be a finisher/counterattack. Each time its activated you can take a drink and gain 5% mitigation and 5% avoidance for 30seconds. Or the strength of hte alcohol would depend on the % bonus. This would be perfect thing for alchemists to craft when they are put in game! However there is no refresh timer, so you can get drunker and drunker, but the buffs end when you leave combat (ie FD or the fight is over). This would make for a very funny fight! In the middle of a fight you see him lean way back and take a shot (like in drunken master!) I think that would be super duper awesome! lol! It could also add like 1000 hate, since you are ignoring the mob and taking a drink, might piss him off, plus you don't lose the damage (and therefore aggro) of the mob. This would be exclusive to drunken style and be an awesome defensive boost!


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Fusoya

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2007, 03:07:21 PM »

haha i like the drinking idea, take that rogue darts!. would be funny tho =P


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Tenison

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2007, 03:11:42 PM »

Unfortunately the game is rated T. Though yes it would be nice, correct me if I'm wrong, but that makes heavy drinking is a no no.


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Shengyi Tsung

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2007, 03:54:05 PM »

Lol, well wasn't drunken master rated PG-13? That is the same a T rated game right? It should be ok. Well fine if Titanic is PG-13 and can show boobs, i think we can get away with a gourd in it, (not like you would actually SEE alchohol.)


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Tenison

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2007, 11:59:15 PM »

Well actually I suppose it is doable, Virtual Fighter is rated Teen and Shun Di uses drunken kung-fu and more he drunk the stronger he got. Though if drunken style was monkey style instead while it would take some of the "coolness" out of it, it would open up some more possibilities. And Drunken monkey is a generally accepted variation of monkey style. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Kung_Fu Also it's a bit of pun, but the named monkey would flow better with the Dragon and Crane styles. Oh wells, doen't much matter. Would probably be too much work to rewrite all the abilities and would piss off to many fans for them to change it.

Anyways, sorry for this off topic rambling.


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Fusoya

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2007, 10:00:13 AM »

For balancing issues with the other monk disciplines, i dont think it'd be possible, definately a neat idea tho. perhaps if counterparts were made for the diff monk disciplines...


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Lee

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2007, 12:38:56 PM »

HA! I love the drinking idea Shengyi.

I am Drunken Monk lvl 36, and although I have a bit of a sheltered opinion (i.e. still need end abilities, haven't tanked lvl 53 5-6 dots and so on), so far it's been fantastic. I 2-box a Hayatet Shaman, and my static group is BM, Necro and Ranger with room for one more. I tank 99% of the time when I play, and I got to tell ya so far I don't regret not making a defensive fighter in this MMO.

Now I have 14 lvls to go before I can really form a good solid opinion on the 'tanking' aspect, but so far it hasn't been an issue. We never feel like we need to get a plate tank to join us, I have been able to do everything up till now (I realize this could change).

Also, my group is pretty ideal; 2 nice dps, 2 healers, and me. Gets the job done quick.

Lee - Drunken Monk
Brahma - Hayatet Shaman
Arisen on Flamehammer


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Dinendal Telrunya

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2007, 04:36:46 AM »

I've been a dragon monk until lvl 36... Then I decided I'd had enough of my group's constant bitching about me being useless, and since we didn't have a decent tank I decided to switch to drunken... Halfway into the Cragwind weapon quest.

I'm now lvl 37. On the one hand, my usefullness has gone up about 500%. My group suddenly absolutely adores the fact that I'm around, because we now have a stable tank. I can keep aggro by just cycling through mobs, spamming Jeering Kick, and throwing in the occasional Foolhardy Swagger. On the other hand, when doing shrine of the wind quest, at some point I had 5 lvl 35 4-dots bashing away at me, and our sorceror managed to draw aggro... Le't just say that at lvl 37, with people in the group who do a lot more damage than you, it CAN be hard to keep aggro ánd stay alive when faced with more than 3 mobs. You just can't attack them all fast enough, you can't do enough damage to keep aggro that way, nor get healed fast enough. It's not impossible though, if your group knows what it's doing and takes the limitations of a paper tank into account.
Please note that my Cragwind group does not do so, it's really just a disorganised bunch of people who are half the time NOT attacking the same mob, and run away from me when they draw aggro instead of towards me. Which makes tanking a wee bit harder, and which makes me extra proud of managing to avoid groupwipes in Cragwind. Group consists of:
-Level 37 Ranger
-Level 38 Sorceror
-Level 36 Shaman
-Level 36 Dread Knight (Who SHOULD have been the tank, IMO, but he sucked. Honestly, WTF is the point of being a DK if you couldn't even tank to save your life?)
-Level 32 Cleric (I owe him my life. More than once he just ignored the sorceror when he drew aggro again, realising a dead me would result in a group wipe, whereas a dead sorceror just means a little delay in killing the mobs Tongue

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-Level 37 Monk (Me. Who did feign death once, during tanking... I mean, what's the point of dying if you can feign? Either way, the aggro WILL go to the rest of the group, and feigning means you can be useful later on in combat, or by pulling all corpses to a safe spot and reviving the cleric... For some reason, my group thought I should've just let myself die... Roll Eyes

Your opinions on FD during tanking, please? Is it cowardice, or a sound tactical decision?)

Anyway, I do not regret the switch and will happily stay intoxicated until level 50, I think, when I will reevaluate my skills and position in groups.

Finished the Cragwind Weapon quests now, nice bladed staff for the next few levels... Any thoughts on where to get a decent martial sword? Tongue


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Swang

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2007, 11:38:10 AM »

Quote from: Dinendal Telrunya on October 31, 2007, 04:36:46 AM

Your opinions on FD during tanking, please? Is it cowardice, or a sound tactical decision?)

A Fair Point, I would say its a fair call to FD if

1) if your close to death and the Mob is close to death
2) you have more than 1 healer in the group
3) if your seriously out numbered

For a Monk who's Tanking to FD in a fight can be a respectable tactical decision. Of course training your own group is going a bit to far Grin


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Torkal

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2007, 05:37:31 PM »

Im a lvl 30 Drunken Monk and I often FD during tanking but I usually tell the group to start running or tell the caster to evac about 1 second before I FD.

I see it as a tactical advantage for the paper tank.


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Matsu

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Re: Drunken Monk Style at 50, my thoughts.

« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2008, 11:31:09 PM »

Seems to me this threads a bit out of date, being as it doesn't take into account force-taunt changes, +hate stance changes etc.
Both Harmonious and Dragon have their own improvement threads, I think Drunken could use one as well.

Just wanted to see if any high-level drunken monks might want to pick up that torch. If not I may start a thread myself for such things (but being as I'm only 35 right now. I'd need lots of input anyway. However, I'm rising quickly and a good listener)

Anyway, I'll make up a little list and add it if anyone else starts it, or start it if not