Sorry to be turning this in to something of a rant, I'm simply sharing my thoughts:

Also you mentioned that everyone needs to stick with being constructive. Everyone here has been constructive. We have monks who busted their ass compiling data and issues as well as many here working outside the game on these forums to come up with alternatives and solutions to many of our problems. All the constructive posts are here and waiting to be confirmed or put into action. There's only so many times you can state the problems we face, and basically every issue is covered and compounded into the individual stance sticky threads. There's really nothing more to say other then "Where are the changes?"

I'm just going to give you a scenario that drove the point home to me of how poor the class is at the moment.

I am a semi hardcore player with interests in Adv and Crafting spheres.  My wife on the other hand is a casual player.  We chose our classes to compliment each other so that I could two box her when she isn't able to be online to play.  I chose a Monk and she.. a Shaman.

I am a level 31 Drunken Monk and she is a 30 Shaman geared toward buffs(not sure of the name of the stance - she gets a great dex/haste buff though).  For equipment, I have all gear but arms and shoulders I beleive that are above my level.. some by a lot.  She, on the other hand, has a few pieces that are above her level and mostly either at or below her level.  Here's the scenario.

Near NT, there is a cliff area that are the home to Cliff Trolls.  They are level 32-34 3dots.  We both chose a level 33 3 dot to test with.  We both only used buffs that we had and no help from the other person.  She managed to kill her mob with about 20% energy left and 80% health.  To get ready for my fight, I did a few things.  I medded to full Jin.. and went totally defensive.  I used Aum Liat, Drunken Stance and used a Martial Sword for extra parry %.  Mind you I did NOT have reed in the wind yet.  I managed to get my same level mob down to 92% before I was down to under 10% and forced to feign.  At least that didn't fail.

My wife was dumbfounded, although I must say I wasn't.  Now I definately expect a difference between classes and how some toons might be able to solo better than others.  This was such a polar opposite though.  So I started thinking to myself.. what if I had better gear and then stopped.  I figure I could find all level 41 armors and be maxed out on EE for adventuring.. and then stopped.  Why should I have to have armors 10 levels above me, to effectively battle creatures around my level.  Just didn't make sense.

So.. to make a long story short.. my monkly adventuring has been suspended.  I've switched over to a full time crafter until some fixes go in.  Stance fixes are great to hear about, but make no mistake.. that is not by any means the end of our class problems.  I love my class.. I just hope to be able to play it some day with the effectiveness it deserves.

I am new to the monk genre - I have always been a tank in MoGs.  I am also a lurker on your forums and I must say...

Thanks, for all the work the majority of you are pursuing. 

Like I said, I am new to the VG monk, only lvl 19 - and to me (duoing with my cleric wife) the monk seems bad ass.  I can yank aggro off her in times of danger, and FD it back to her when she is full hp again and my crits seem godly - esp as compared to my 19 ranger or 15 war (sic).

Anyways - I have noticed quirks with the monk that seemed lackluster or just plain broke (hp regen is really slow).  It is great knowing that there is an aggressive, active community looking out for those of us that just cant make the time to keep Devs in a full nelson until things get resolved.

/sic balls, chopper.

-=D=-

I was just double checking this on test, dragon stance and secrets are stacking

I suppose you gotta deal with all the horrible PvP bugs atm too right Chunli?  Tharidon is a pvp server?  100% /agree as usual.  I'm so sick of dragon monks being utter garbage that I'm gonna re-roll to drunken to try it out (i'd be a sellout if I went harmonious :p).  I noticed that our AE's seem really buggy lately.  Certain areas, (shidreth mining caves, deep swamp mantis caves), completely prevent ae's from working.  You can click it, it takes your endurance, yet you deal no damage.

Stance fixes alone are not enough to make Monks (especially dragon, which imo is the most gimped of the 3 styles) even close to comparable to other classes.  We need more concrete evidence of meaningful changes besides dragon proc finally stacking with secrets.

Whoa time out buddy!  You don't have to reroll completely you can go to Khal and do the style quest change, so you don't have to completely make a new monk.  Just do the style quest over again!  I'd hate for you to waste a character slot and go from 1-15 again, lol!  Just do the style quest to change styles and test out another style.