Hey all, unfortunately, everybody and their mothers hate Orcs (who could hate a cute little face like mine?!).  I was wondering if it's even realistic to attempt to get faction for the Wardship quests.  When I kill the mobs that award me faction over there, I see I have about 50 faction in my little chat box after each kill (i've only killed a few things..).  However, when I do the /showfaction, it shows like -8000 for the Wardship (and nearly everywhere else).  However, for example, with Khal, it says -5000something but I grinded it up to 350 from Ksavari Gulch and I'm not KOS in Khal anymore, so I'm subject to believe that true faction is based off what we see in our chat box after we kill something.

So, is it viable for me to try to get the 12k or whatever faction you need for Wardship for the shurikens?  Also, what other armor/weapons are available from questing there?  I heard there are rewards every 4k faction or so.


And if anybody knows where the quest is for:
http://vg-en.curse-gaming.com/database/items/details/1391287/graystone-bladestaff-of-purification/

I'd love to know =)    (also if anybody knows the new stats on the flawless guardians handwraps of striking, I'd like to know that too!)

Well yeah, I have thus far grinded from -8100 to -6400, and just that took a little while.  I'm not KOS anymore and can get the quest.  However, it still seems like a ginormous amount of work (practically double what everybody else has to grind), and I dunno if it's really worth it to spend like 60-70 hours grinding the stuff when in the same time I could probably get up to level 42/43 (I'm 36 now) and go after other good pieces of equipment (that Graystone Staff from Beranid Hills looks nice, what do I have to do to get that?!).  And the armor is good, but it seems like there will be better stuff at 50, and if there isn't presently, there will be soon once they incorporate some new high end stuff. 

And the shurikens do about 1200 damage, right?  That seems a little overpowered, to the point that it does about 5-6 times more damage than your weapon and more damage than all your skills.  What would be the point of not just using those only?  I dunno, it just seems like they're begging for a nerf.

Is it true you get a quest for a flying mount from the Wardship faction?

I am an orc monk and have grined all the way to over 7k true faction.

I have 4 or 5 pieces of the armor and am really close to 2 more plus i have the greaves armor drop too.

The faction was a pain, but once you break even it doesn' t seem so bad.  Definately do the quests you can because they help rasie faction faster.

at 2k true factinbo you can turn in the tier 1 gear, betl, bracers, arms

at 5kish true faction you can turn in the tier 2 gear, boots, helm, gloves

at 10-12kish faction you can turn in the tier 3 gear, shoulders legs chest

at 12kish you can also start weapon quest, 5 nameds in thelaseen and 5 in Vol Tuniel

at 17Kish i think is when the weapon upgrade quest starts, need 300 mote and a bunch of candles/runes/tomes  it SUCKS

legs and chest and shoulders definately worth it, also indefinite shurikens is worth it too.

I'm and orc and I'm doing these...already at about 4k full faction so yes it is possible

Well honestly I think the true problem here is they dont have an evil faction equivilant to these quests.  In fact most MMOs put these evil/good factions in game but rarely do they mean much.  EQ1 did a  fantastic job with factions in the velious era...have yet to see something like this implemented in this style game elswhere.

exactly what qeusts get me started on the summoned shurikens?

As an orc monk, I rocked up to Wardship about level 27, and largely stayed in the area as I levelled to 37.  Had my full set of armour by level 39 (splitting time between there and the arena farming coins for Tranquility). Plowing through Bloodhowlers is pretty decent XP, especially if you can snag an AE group.  If you're prepared to stick around and level in the area, the faction really is not an issue, it just takes you a little longer to be able to start on some of the armour quests.

There's some errors in the info above though.  The MAX amount of dynamic faction you can gain is 20k.  As an evil race with Wardship, you start out with -8100 True faction.  Add 20k to that, and you cap out at 11900 True faction.  Don't worry though, because you can still do every quest that every other race can do.  I had tier 1 pieces ready to turn in and was just waiting on faction, but after that it was a cinch.

The T1 stuff is 2k true, the T2 is 5k, as stated above.  I can't recall if the T3 was 8k or 10k true, but either way T3 may well be race dependent and evils may get it earlier than other races in terms of true faction (even though they've earnt more dynamic).  At this stage though you're most likely levelling deep in Vol Tuniel or in Thelaseen, and faction is very easy to come by with mobs giving +3/+4 faction per kill.  The weapon quest for the orb that summons shruikens was available for me at maxed faction (+20k dynamic, +11900 true).

If you level enough in the area, you'll probably see plenty of Delso runes, you can turn these in for faction as well.  Also if you plan on doing the advanced weapon quest to upgrade the orb to ancient, hang onto any ancient armour pieces you may not need - you can turn these in to convert them to motes once you reach that stage.  The first BH quest kills 50 for 500 faction.  The next 20 (I think this is right) repeatable quests (called More Foes of the Sleeping Moon) take 100 BH kills for 500 faction.  After that, you start getting Even More Foes of the Sleeping Moon, which gives +250 faction for killing 100 BHs.  It's about this stage you should start thinking about dungeon crawling through VT or Thel more permanently rather than repeating this quest for faction.