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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2007, 01:36:51 PM »

 I am a dragon monk and at that time my weapons were 2* rhino hide handwraps(41.6 dps each) after they lowered zank's lvl never used them Tongue and way better to use hand to hand than 2h.

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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2007, 02:55:10 PM »


I love numbers... they rarely lie. Just be aware of the following.

  • Level of player A vs. Level of player B
  • Stats of said players
  • Gear of said players.


Well, they don't lie *too much*...  There are still some issues to work out, but with the exception of DoTs, they affect everyone equally.  I find it disturbing that a well-equipped, same-level DK could out-damage a NAKED monk - let alone one with similar level gear.
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2007, 04:04:40 PM »

Sarmone's numbers seems to be near half of what my parse gave (at 42) and nearly a third of Xeliso (at 50) (we're both harmonious though - might just be a huge gap due to crit rate in Tiger, I'm not sure how other styles perform at higher levels.), so judging if we're competing with a DK from a single parse might be bad.
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2007, 06:46:31 PM »

i think that depends on total hit/total dmg, i guess its accurate since total hits of my parser are close or about equal with group members, dont think i will group with a DK everyday Smiley, but i group with a pally and  a  ranger everyday if you're intrested.......
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2007, 07:17:40 PM »

I am a dragon monk and at that time my weapons were 2* rhino hide handwraps(41.6 dps each) after they lowered zank's lvl never used them Tongue and way better to use hand to hand than 2h.



So... where did you get those?  lol
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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2007, 07:39:16 PM »

i think that depends on total hit/total dmg, i guess its accurate since total hits of my parser are close or about equal with group members, dont think i will group with a DK everyday Smiley, but i group with a pally and  a  ranger everyday if you're intrested.......

Nod, just that your numbers does seem a bit low compared to mine and Xeliso (and the rangers seems to be nearly the same - wierdly enough).  I use 33.3-something fistwraps at the moment (they sorta slow though, so still more raw damage than barehanded fists), so my weapons are below yours.
One critical diffrence could be that your group lacked mitigation debuff, something harmonious monks are never without - the damage increase from that is very noticable; you also dosen't appear to have critted thousand fists in this time (which is ~4500 unbuffed with only mitigation debuff on mob) - which once again happends constantly to harmonious; I've actually begun to have agro issues as a rule rather than exception if I trigger that to early in a fight.
There could also be a diffrence between sustained dps (on a single long duration fight) and damage on several mobs (downtime between allows for regeneration of endurance and cooldowns, while a long fight is just repeating abilities.) Your DoT's could also have been missed by the log (thought there was a writeup with the combat log not giving ownership properly on them always) which is some loss of damage.
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2007, 09:04:13 PM »

Our damage is weak because ashen hand is broken, if it was doing even close to what it says its suppose to do (250% + 15) monks would be on par with rangers and maybe more

Because with a full bar of jin you could spam 3 ashen hands in a row, thats like being able to spam three blade of summers and blade of winters back to back to back for zero endurance costs
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2007, 10:56:11 PM »

As Leishu was saying your damage appears to be way too low.  At level 30, I'm hanging in there with rogues that don't stealth much.  I haven't grouped with any DK's recently, but that would imply that DK's also out DPS Rogues.

Also, Leishu while your Harmonious debuffs would certainly increase your DPS (and his if he was a Harm monk) it would also increase the DPS of the rest of the group.  Thus the percentage difference would remain roughly the same, just the damage numbers of everyone would be higher.

I'm thinking there's something wrong with either how he is using his skills, or maybe his gear is too low level or not optimal for DPSing.

Also, as a Dragon monk I still find I'm critting quite often on Yellow con and lower.  Such that Thousand fists  and Thundering fists are always available to use when refresh is up and almost always crit.

Then again, I didn't take a good look at his group makeup, so that might account for his low parse.   Although that still wouldn't explain why everyone else in his group was parsing about where they normally would.

Also, if he's not taking advantage of vulnerabilities while the DK is taking advantage of them, that right there is a HUGE reason for the disparity.  Even at only level 30.  Boundless fist combined with Daze is pretty much constantly hitting for 900-1500 damage.  And if you have a ranger or rogue around that knows what they are doing.  Daze should be almost contantly on the mob to take advantage of.

Then again, having just received the upgrade for Storm Dragon, I'm at the top of the curve right now for the proc, so that might be biasing my judgements.

As for the cone shape Dragon Rakes it Claws.  I like it.  It allows me to freely AE without the need to worry about either aggroing nearby creatures or breaking Mez...  More damage would be just icing on the cake.

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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2007, 04:50:28 AM »

croaker if you want to see my equipment you can always check my blog at vanguard players even though they are slow with updates but you will get an idea at least, can you imagine a lvl 41 monk that doesnt know how to use vulnerabilities..... dragon DoT are useless so i never use it, except sundering claw which is a lvl 42 adv. finisher, btw harm monks does more dps i tried harm at 28-32.


 what you have to know is there was no AE dmg in my parser too, no cleric buffs, bards  that makes a difference in dps you can just check the group in my post. the parser will always give you different dps, it depends on total damage, hits,etc. this is another parser i took at lvl 41( before the posted one)

Entity Name:      * You
Total Hits:      367
Total Damage:      221643
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      2695
Total Time in Combat:   689
Average Swing Time:   1.877384
Damage Per Second:   321.688
Damage Per Hit:      603.9319
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2007, 12:02:53 PM »

Ah, that certainly looks better.  Maybe, I'm spoiled as I generally have a bear shaman and cleric in group giving me buffs.  Although it's been a while since I've grouped with a Bard.  Likewise I tend to group with Warriors and Pallies, so don't have the opportunity to compare myself to dreadknights.

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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2007, 09:08:46 AM »

This is the Log of me (Bloodmage Lvl 23 and Sleipnir Monk, Drunken Lvl 23):
We were doing multiple lvl 21-22 2dots most of the time. His DMG felt kind of low compared to my dmgoutput (as I was healing him through drains, too):

Entity Name:      * You
Total Hits:      229
Total Damage:      146798
Lowest Hit:      46
Highest Hit:      1922
Total Time in Combat:   666
Average Swing Time:   2,908297
Damage Per Second:   220,4174
Damage Per Hit:      641,0393

Entity Name:      Sleipnir
Total Hits:      633
Total Damage:      140257
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      1003
Total Time in Combat:   1086
Average Swing Time:   1,71564
Damage Per Second:   129,1501
Damage Per Hit:      221,575
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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2007, 09:31:40 AM »

Data from this morning.  Velea and I were duoing in Kaon's Rest at the Fallen Lyceum east of Alinora's Retreat.  She was doing a little damage while focusing on keeping me standing, and I was focusing on making the mobs lie down.

By the way, my crit rate seems WAY up after the restart this morning.  I was critting on every third attack on average, using my Protector's Handwrap and my Brute's Handwrap, and that continued through every fight we had.  I'd say it was only every fifth or sixth attack last night when I was fighting the skeltons and zombies under the control of the two Necromancers in that zone, also duoing with Velea.  I'd guess the increase in my DPS from previous posts in this thread are from the increased number of critical hits.  I did just get 18, which brings the "always crit" attack, but as my crit rate was so high, I wasn't using it much; saving it for emergencies.

EDIT:  My DPS from the log at level 16 was 60 (vs. mobs over my level), at level 17 was 82 (duo with Velea again), this one is 102.  So maybe the increase isn't due to more crits, maybe its due to gaining about 20 DPS per level.  Not sure on what the progress is supposed to be yet.

Entity Name:      Meiyen, level 18 dragon monk (Targonor)
Total Hits:      970
Total Damage:      179454
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      992
Total Time in Combat:   1755
Average Swing Time:   1.809278
Damage Per Second:   102.253
Damage Per Hit:      185.0041

Entity Name:      Velea, level 16 disciple
Total Hits:      534
Total Damage:      36475
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      289
Total Time in Combat:   1000
Average Swing Time:   1.872659
Damage Per Second:   36.475
Damage Per Hit:      68.30524

Local yard trash between Alinora's Retreat and the Fallen Lyceum:

Entity Name:      Berserker Beetle, level 15-16 two-dot
Total Hits:      34
Total Damage:      2097
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      88
Total Time in Combat:   92
Average Swing Time:   2.705882
Damage Per Second:   22.79348
Damage Per Hit:      61.67647

Entity Name:      Crowned Cockatrice, level 15-16 two-dot
Total Hits:      20
Total Damage:      1364
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      87
Total Time in Combat:   55
Average Swing Time:   2.75
Damage Per Second:   24.8
Damage Per Hit:      68.2

Entity Name:      Swarm Stirge, level 15-16 two-dot
Total Hits:      12
Total Damage:      706
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      67
Total Time in Combat:   29
Average Swing Time:   2.416667
Damage Per Second:   24.34483
Damage Per Hit:      58.83333

Entity Name:      Zihurr Legionnaire, level 15-16 two-dot
Total Hits:      18
Total Damage:      1319
Lowest Hit:      63
Highest Hit:      87
Total Time in Combat:   48
Average Swing Time:   2.666667
Damage Per Second:   27.47917
Damage Per Hit:      73.27778

In the Fallen Lyceum

Entity Name:      Conjured Iceshard, level 15 four-dot
Total Hits:      114
Total Damage:      24379
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      256
Total Time in Combat:   270
Average Swing Time:   2.368421
Damage Per Second:   90.29259
Damage Per Hit:      213.8509

Entity Name:      Conjured Lavashard, level 15 four-dot
Total Hits:      44
Total Damage:      9491
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      253
Total Time in Combat:   108
Average Swing Time:   2.454545
Damage Per Second:   87.87963
Damage Per Hit:      215.7045

Entity Name:      Glacial Guardian, level 15 four-dot
Total Hits:      177
Total Damage:      36247
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      256
Total Time in Combat:   438
Average Swing Time:   2.474576
Damage Per Second:   82.75571
Damage Per Hit:      204.7853

Entity Name:      Molten Guardian, level 15 four-dot
Total Hits:      193
Total Damage:      40743
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      257
Total Time in Combat:   470
Average Swing Time:   2.435233
Damage Per Second:   86.68723
Damage Per Hit:      211.1036

Entity Name:      Arctic Sprite, level 15 four-dot
Total Hits:      15
Total Damage:      3484
Lowest Hit:      205
Highest Hit:      251
Total Time in Combat:   29
Average Swing Time:   1.933333
Damage Per Second:   120.1379
Damage Per Hit:      232.2667

We had one wipe when FD didn't work, a couple times more that we had to use FD, and generally great experience for just being in a duo.  In about two hours she to 25% in level 16 and I got about 10% in level 18.
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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2007, 07:09:14 PM »

Level 44 harmonious monk. Dwarven Martial Staff of Bashing (2hb, ~67 dps, 2.8 speed). ~450 str unbuffed.
I thought I had more comprehensive data, but there was a lot of fights which included skeletons, which had to be removed to give decently accurate data.

Group: 42 ranger, 43&38 sorceror, 38 Paladin, 40 cleric. I'm rather unsure at what pace the short-duration buffs paladin (or cleric?) can provide was dealt out; haven't had much grouping experience with either.

Entity Name:      * You
Total Hits:      87
Total Damage:   117024
Lowest Hit:      203
Highest Hit:      5029 (normal crit on Thousand)
Total Time in Combat:   143
Average Swing Time:   1,643678
Damage Per Second:   818,3497
Damage Per Hit:   1345,103

Fights against 2 6 dots, had agro issues + was mezing.
Entity Name:      * You
Total Hits:      59
Total Damage:   74318
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      4873 (normal thousand crit)
Total Time in Combat:   100
Average Swing Time:   1,694915
Damage Per Second:   743,18
Damage Per Hit:   1259,627

And just for a personal patting on the back, fight against a skeleton:
Entity Name:      * You
Total Hits:      12
Total Damage:   37215
Lowest Hit:      331
Highest Hit:      8987
Total Time in Combat:   19
Average Swing Time:   1,583333
Damage Per Second:   1958,684
Damage Per Hit:   3101,25
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2007, 01:42:35 PM »

I am a lvl 40 harm monk using a 2handed 41DPS bladestaff.  I was using tiger stance.  I wasn't trying to DPS very hard, meaning i wasn't using secrets or anything like that.  Also had to afk for a few mobs.  Gonna do the next parse going hand2hand with secrets in tiger stance.

These mobs were in graystone lvl 43 skeletons.  We were pretty laid back, so i'd say this is a pretty typical DPS output without a lot of emphasis on killing fast.  Literacy said he wasn't trying hard also  Tongue

Baucchus is a 43 wolf shaman
Helichrysum is a 43 bloodmage
Judinous is a 43 Dreadknight
Literacy is a 39 Psionicist
Josy is a 38 blood mage

Entity Name:      * You
Total Hits:      2786
Total Damage:      2826910
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      7032
Total Time in Combat:   5389
Average Swing Time:   1.934314
Damage Per Second:   524.5704
Damage Per Hit:      1014.684

Entity Name:      Baucchus Wolfwine
Total Hits:      2234
Total Damage:      1009704
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      1953
Total Time in Combat:   4982
Average Swing Time:   2.230081
Damage Per Second:   202.6704
Damage Per Hit:      451.9713

Entity Name:      Judinous
Total Hits:      3302
Total Damage:      2754651
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      4588
Total Time in Combat:   6285
Average Swing Time:   1.903392
Damage Per Second:   438.2897
Damage Per Hit:      834.2371

Entity Name:      Literacy
Total Hits:      922
Total Damage:      376619
Lowest Hit:      131
Highest Hit:      4347
Total Time in Combat:   2544
Average Swing Time:   2.759219
Damage Per Second:   148.0421
Damage Per Hit:      408.4805

Entity Name:      Josy
Total Hits:      215
Total Damage:      94442
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      1120
Total Time in Combat:   575
Average Swing Time:   2.674419
Damage Per Second:   164.247
Damage Per Hit:      439.2651

Entity Name:      Helichrysum Sanguineum
Total Hits:      633
Total Damage:      519123
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      3842
Total Time in Combat:   1727
Average Swing Time:   2.728278
Damage Per Second:   300.5923
Damage Per Hit:      820.0995
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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2007, 04:31:53 PM »

This is a parse of after i dinged 41, against lvl 41 and 42 mobs in graystone

Entity Name:      * You
Total Hits:      998
Total Damage:      1249948
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      14175
Total Time in Combat:   1930
Average Swing Time:   1.933868
Damage Per Second:   647.6415
Damage Per Hit:      1252.453
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