Navigation:    Home arrow Forum arrow Monk Discussionarrow Monk Generalarrow Post patch.

User Menu

Welcome Guest.






Lost Password?
No account yet? Register

Main Menu

Home
News
Forum
Search

Class Info

FAQ
Abilities
Quests
Guides

Polls

What race will you be?
 
What's your favorite martial style?
 
User Info
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
December 02, 2008, 11:09:54 PM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
News Box
Welcome to Vanguard Monks!

Key Stats
9260 Posts in 1001 Topics by 4117 Members
Latest Member: erutamsixt
Home Help Search Login Register
Vanguard Monks  |  Monk Discussion  |  Monk General  |  Post patch. « previous next »
Pages: 1 2 [3] Print
Author Topic: Post patch.  (Read 2802 times)
Quinn the Mighty
Monk Lead
Kyoshi
Sensei
*****

Karma: +50/-38
Posts: 443

Quinn_The_Mighty@hotmail.com
View Profile Email
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2007, 12:23:14 PM »

Quote
My DPS with JUST auto-attack against a Lv 39-4dot (I am lv41), is ~150-175.
My DPS using abilites, is ~112 - 120.

Do you have it broke down by ability. I would be very interested in specifics.

~QTM



Edit: I r know how typing!!!!!
« Last Edit: March 07, 2007, 12:29:46 PM by Quinn the Mighty » Logged
Apoco
Master
***

Karma: +2/-5
Posts: 74

lordapoco@msn.com AssimX+Apoco
View Profile Email
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2007, 12:25:36 PM »

Yes I can. Let me get a fresh log.
Logged

-- Apoco
50 Drunken Monk
Florendyl
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php
PLEASE WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU POST!
Zend
Desciple
**

Karma: +4/-1
Posts: 25


View Profile
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2007, 12:26:00 PM »

That's re-assuring Quinn, thanks.  I know you share in the frustration as well, and believe me when I say I'm trying to be as patient as possible  Tongue

Keep up the good work bro.

Leishiu - Good catch I hadn't noticed this.  That's one step in the right direction at least!
Logged
Shengyi Tsung
Grandmaster
****

Karma: +5/-8
Posts: 197


View Profile Email
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2007, 12:46:00 PM »

this is BS.

Now that everyone has been "nerfed" or "fixed" (pick one) everyone is going to be whining and complaining about how they need to be adjusted and we are going to take the back seat AGAIN.  In the patch notes are more fixes for rogues, fixes for shaman and sorcerors and all sorts of adjustment crap for classes who are essentially better off than we are in EVERY way.  so wtf?  Why is the class that is agreed to be the worst off by just about anyone asked, the class that needs to be fixed and adjusted and boosted more than any other class (or am i wrong?), still the last class to get any attention? 

I still dont understand why all the damage was cut in half.  Everyone got used to it being that way, and now its been "fixed" and everyone is gonna be pissed off.  Again, since there are more clerics and rangers on one server than all vanguard monks in existence now, we are going to be shelved so that the areas pulling in more cash can be kept happy.........

And since someone pointed it there hasn't been any dev posts on here, what am i supposed to think?  What are any of us supposed to think?  It's nice to be reassured they are listening but i dont want them to listen, i want them to respond.   So suggestions?  What do we do now?
Logged
Fukoph
Recruit
*

Karma: +1/-7
Posts: 7


View Profile Email
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2007, 12:57:58 PM »

So suggestions?  What do we do now?

one word:  SEPPUKU!!

LoL
« Last Edit: March 07, 2007, 02:08:36 PM by Fukoph » Logged
Apoco
Master
***

Karma: +2/-5
Posts: 74

lordapoco@msn.com AssimX+Apoco
View Profile Email
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2007, 01:39:10 PM »

Quote
My DPS with JUST auto-attack against a Lv 39-4dot (I am lv41), is ~150-175.
My DPS using abilites, is ~112 - 120.

Do you have it broke down by ability. I would be very interested in specifics.

~QTM



Edit: I r know how typing!!!!!

Here they are.
http://www.assimx.net/withabilities.png
http://www.assimx.net/withoutabilities.png

I also posted a ranger, 2 levels below me, in my same group for some "comparison"

I see a huge difference in those dps's.  Also, in the one with abilities, Player = Apoco.  I had to adjust the log in the non-ability one because it was reading me as doing 0 dps, because I never did an ability.  Hope this helps >_<;  let me know if you need anything, either through here or by using my contact info in my profile.
Logged

-- Apoco
50 Drunken Monk
Florendyl
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php
PLEASE WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU POST!
kasimir
Recruit
*

Karma: +0/-0
Posts: 11


View Profile Email
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2007, 01:43:36 PM »

I know our damage is totally messed up, but don't forget about feign, its still not working like it should be, even though sigil said they would fix it.  The mobs still sprint back to their starting positions.  Our gimped monks best ability, and its still doesen't work.
Logged
Quinn the Mighty
Monk Lead
Kyoshi
Sensei
*****

Karma: +50/-38
Posts: 443

Quinn_The_Mighty@hotmail.com
View Profile Email
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2007, 02:09:57 PM »

Quote
Here they are.
http://www.assimx.net/withabilities.png
http://www.assimx.net/withoutabilities.png

I also posted a ranger, 2 levels below me, in my same group for some "comparison"

I see a huge difference in those dps's.  Also, in the one with abilities, Player = Apoco.  I had to adjust the log in the non-ability one because it was reading me as doing 0 dps, because I never did an ability.  Hope this helps >_<;  let me know if you need anything, either through here or by using my contact info in my profile.

Exactly what I was looking for, Thanks!

~QTM
Logged
Apoco
Master
***

Karma: +2/-5
Posts: 74

lordapoco@msn.com AssimX+Apoco
View Profile Email
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2007, 02:23:19 PM »

No problem.  glad to be of assistance.  let me know if you need anything else.
Logged

-- Apoco
50 Drunken Monk
Florendyl
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php
PLEASE WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU POST!
Rayden
Recruit
*

Karma: +0/-0
Posts: 11


View Profile Email
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2007, 02:43:15 PM »

Puh. Happy to read this thread.
Even though I love the monk I considered rerolling/ taking a break from VG.

When I left this afternoon I (level 21) was in a cave near misthaven fighting level 18 3dots and made my way through.
After the patch I had to use my bindstone because I didnt stand a chance against the very same mobs.
(ironically a level 16 Bloodmage passed me by soling the cave...) .
« Last Edit: March 07, 2007, 02:45:43 PM by Rayden » Logged
Kintari
Recruit
*

Karma: +1/-0
Posts: 9


Monk & Disciple


View Profile
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2007, 03:08:16 PM »

So suggestions?  What do we do now?

one word:  SEPPUKU!!

LoL

That is gold my friend! LMAO That made my day.
Logged

Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend.
         Bruce Lee
Kyomi
Grandmaster
****

Karma: +7/-3
Posts: 190



View Profile Email
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2007, 03:15:21 PM »

Emergency patch - hah - wonder if they are going to change damage adjustment back.
I sure hope they are not going to just tone down everyone else's dps instead of really looking at our class..

Nerfing the other dps classes output would be the easiest fix for them..or at least the fastest short term. It wouldn't solve any real problems though
Logged



Level 50 Dragon Monk - Infineum
Dragon Monk Issues 2.0
Lomash
Master
***

Karma: +12/-14
Posts: 90


View Profile
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2007, 03:27:54 PM »

I'm shelving my monk until the class gets some focused attention.
I gave the devs the benefit of the doubt, but it seems clear now they still don't understand the monk class or aren't paying attention.

This reminds me of what the Agent class went through in Anarchy Online. It recieved nothing but a series of nerfs early on, while the players were begging for needed improvements and bug fixes that never came, to which Funcom's response was usually changes that did nothing to address the real issues or even nerfed the class further.
The issues did finally get resolved and new things added to round out the class, but it took a long time and much whining before it came about. Up until the very end the devs were still perplexed as to why the Agents were complaining, and it wasn't until they sat down and gave the class a hard look and reviewed all the player feedback before they started to get it, and came out with some changes that were actually good.


« Last Edit: March 07, 2007, 03:31:07 PM by Lomash » Logged
Pages: 1 2 [3] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.1 | SMF © 2006, Simple Machines LLC
Joomla Bridge by JoomlaHacks.com