Well said man.  In my eyes that is pretty much all they did was nerf nerf nerf. Then they nerf + add to equal out the current nerf.  They must think we are stupid or something.  One of the most over powerd classes in game (cleric) gets a significant DPS increase.  That made my heart sink.  Im stupid enough to stick with the class though.  I dont know why, i guess I am just stubborn.  However my stubborness wont last too much longer before I hit that cancel button.  Sorry I know there are other classes out there to play that would probably make me happy.  Fact is me and my friends are 30 already and I have no desire to reroll and play catch up by myself for the next 2 months.

Ill miss your posts bro,  I enjoyed posting in the same threads as you and seeing what you had to say.  Thanks for your community and hopefully one day.. they will fix us and you will come back.

Well said, Ive also stopped my monk, at a level of 32, after seeing the next patch message as a nerf without addressing all the more important issues first.
Ive rerolled a druid, currently upto level 27 after this exp weekend, and wow... im loving it.
While i loved the monk class, the idea behind it, the style, the Feign !! I know even when it is eventually fixed that i wont return to it. I was a druid for 5 years in EQ, and i think im a druid again for some time to come in VG.
Was fun being a monk however while it lasted.
Hats off to all of you monks who stick this out and wait for the improvements
/bow

Lomash. no i have not tested it... read between the lines though... "monks base damage is getting a SLIGHT increase"

Slight = practically nothing

bare handed damage is getting nerfed
our skill set does not take weapons into account

So tell me how does a "slight base damage increase" help us... especially after a bare handed dmg nerf.

disciple and clerics "will be getting a SIGNIFICANT increase to there dmg and special attacks"

Thats funny Teno... "give them time".  Time has shown thus far over the last 30 days.  Double nerfs to evasion.  Nerf to crit rate.  Screwed up FD now having to exploit to split pull.  Comming to live soon.... nerf to bare hand damage. slight increase to base damage... which will probably BARELY make up for the nerf to bare hands.

I dont know your background Teno, however I can tell you mine.  I have played Eq1 since beta,  EQ2, WoW, SWG, CoH and many other games.  I can tell you that 99% of what makes test servers makes the live server.  The test server is not there to test to see if what is implemented needs to be changed or not.  Rather it is there to make sure there is no bugs in the code they put in that would break anything else.

"Considering we really just got attention from a dev last week and have a start to a fix soon. I think a thank you is in order for them to pick this up so quickly ..."

So you think I should thank them for ignoring us this long?  I should also thank them for the continued nerfs AFTER the "attention" ?

I have no desire to make an alt.  I came to this game with my friends and I enjoy playing with them.  To make an alt would mean that I would fall way behind them.  I have no desire to fall behind my friends and play catch up for the next couple months.

I never said the class was unplayable.  What I am saying is that our dps is extremely lower then rogues and rangers.  Our DPS is equal to that of bards.  The ranger and the bard both offer a ton of utility.  The monk offers almost none.  Given those facts.. the monk would be the least desired class, out of all the offensive fighters, to pick for a group.  Why?  because there is nothing that we can do that another class can do better.  To me that is way underbalanced within the offensive fighter category.  To me, while it doesnt mean its unplayable, it does mean its broken.

Think of it as being a coach in the NFL.  There are 3 reciever positions open, but 4 people trying out for the position.  We have the ranger who runs faster and catches better. We have the rogue who catches equally well as the monk but runs alots faster.  We have the bard that runs equally well as the monk but catches alot better.  Then we have the monk who runs ok (not as fast as the ranger or rogue though) and catches ok (not as good as the ranger or the bard though).  So we have the ranger that out performs the monk in every category.  We have the rogue who out performs the monk in 1 category and is equal to the monk in the other.  We have the bard that out performs the monk in 1 category and is equal in the other.  Guess which class gets cut from the roster?

That is of course if FD doesnt fail.  Usueally with a wipe means there were too many mobs.  So if FD fails once, do you think you will last 8 seconds to try again?  Also with the possibilty that even if it does succeed you may still be locked in combat with mobs camping you.  You can play around with it a little bit and hope to get out of it and reset the mobs but it does not always work.  It seems ok in dungeons a little lower level then you are... however usually you are going to be in dungeons equal to and higher level then you are.  The bug only seems to happen when you have 3 or more mobs.  I think what is actually happening though is that, lets say you got 3 mobs on you, 2 of the mobs have believed the FD and 1 of the mobs did not.  This bugs it into its current state of 1 mob camping you keeping you in combat and giving the message "everyone thinks you are dead'.  That is what I think is actually happening.  Which if it is... it goes back to saying we need a better FD against higher level mobs.  I have no problem of it failing to purple mobs, however mobs that are a level or two higher then you should be a better chance. IE whites, almost always. Yellows, most of the time.  Reds about a 50/50 if not 60/40 shot.

Your points...

1. Goading slap is pretty useless, the refresh is so long and does what? add 400 hate i think? 400 hate is equal to 400 dmg.  thats 1 ability from any class.

2. We shouldnt have to assist the bard on pulls in dungeons.  With lull they can useually do it themselves.  When they cant do it themselves, any class can assist the bard.  Useually it would be better for the tank to do that for the initial pull aggro.

3. Never strike is nice, I can agree on this one.  However alot of classes have a mez type ability including the bard which does not require you to be out of combat.  Why does ours?

4.  Jin surge costs too much with little return.. It can be used up by someones auto attack you know.

5.  How many times do you run into a mob that is actually using a stance rather then just being buffed?

6. Waning palm would be nice if it worked... again though, it is like goading slap... except waning palm adds 200 hate to yourself... which is just as equal to you using 1 ability.

So basically you can say that you are happy that your utility encompases holding on to a rez stone, just incase the group wipes?  Of course hoping that none of the above happens while trying to FD?

I will concede though that if they fixed all that is wrong with FD, that I listed above, I would be fine with our utility.

I went from 20th to 26th this weekend always fighting 4dot mobs higher level then me. In the ant mound then trengal keep.  FD didn't fail on me once.  I was split pulling with nerve strike and using it when the group wiped.  It even worked against the 5 dots in Trengal.  I did not have a problem except for the bug of having a mob or two keep me in combat on occasion. 
  I can't solo worth a damn, 2 dots bring me down to 1/4 health a lot but in general I was happy with the grouping experience.  We could use a damage boost.  I did have a few crits for around 3200-3300 but most are 1500 - 2200.