Hey everyone..I have a lvl 22 Harmonious Monk here, and Im wondering if any 20+ Monks (Harmonious or otherwise)have meditated and gained more than 3 abilities since level 15?

For those Harmonious Monks the last thing I learned was Tiger Pounces, but since then Ive not learned a thing over many meditation-aum attempts....

Any word on the lvls where we can attain new abilities? Ive seen very little feedback on the Monk professions past lvl 20.

Thanks!

In this case that link doesnt help much since the harmonic aum's arent included..

OP: I'm 24 and havent learned anything since Tiger Pounces so we just gotta wait and see i guess *_*

Here they are, Deady Adder Hand and Eagle Claw both learned at lvl 15,  Tiger Pounces i believe was lvl 18.

Thats absolutely ridiculous how little abilities we get for AUM in that span of those levels..

The Devs want some feedback from their community sites? Ok, well its time we speak up and talk about the monk being crapped on right now.

The animations are rehashed over and over again and are crap for the most part- our combos do not change for more than 15-20 levels, and its rather mundane once you get into the 20's.

The Harmonious Monk has a serious lack of identity. Ill be posting in another thread the problems, but this stance in particular- while Crane stance has some serious poetential at higher levels- is really lacking a true identity right now, Harmonius Body is fine, and Tiger Stance is utterly useless and pathetic- no Monk uses it, and if they do theyre an idiot.

Ill go more into detail in a later thread because Im short on time, but heres a 22 Harmonious Monk that is not happy about the situation.....especially not getting new AUM abilities at leats every 3-4 levels.

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I agree, Tiger Stance is very nice, you just have to pick and choose how you use it, it's not a spamfest like Crane. It is imperative that you have a lot of Jin when you use it in order to make up for the high endurance costs. Critting on almost every Ashen is great for Flying Kick chains.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to this guys, I took a short hiatus and did some grinding in CIS.

Now Naum, Ive noticed that you're the type around these boards that likes defending the monk, and thats all fine and dandy- but you might want to pay closer attention to what Im saying here...

You mention you could solo in Tiger stance for a couple of levels around 18-20? And? I never said you couldnt...Hell any Monk can solo in any form, but that doesnt make it smart or efficient to do so...

If you soloed 18-20 in Tiger, I pity you bro, i really do, because obviously you havent tested Tiger vs. Crane very thoroughly. If you are fighting meager 2 dots, I guess Tiger stance would be 'ok'...But for 3 dot fights, I can crit just as often and usually do the same amount of dmg or more in some cases in Crane Stance. For two dot solo scenarios in the CIS, I finish the fight with, on average, around 70-75% HP left when i go with Tiger Stance. In Crane stance, I finish the fight in roughly the same amount of time with an average of 90% health left- the downtime is no contest AT ALL when you compare the stances. In Tiger youre waiting on health chunks and Jin to regen in between fights. With Crane, whether you have Jin or not- its right on to the next fight with only a few seconds delay.

Crane stance is a no brainer for Harmonious Monks right now. Two Boundless Fist moves in Tiger Stance and your endurance bar is depleted. Sure, if you start every fight with a full Jin bar Tiger may be 'OK' at best- but thats just not practical when you're in groups-especially in the CIS area- trying to supply DPS.

Your friend here is very much right- Tiger is not the spam fest Harmonious is- but that right there should tell you something...I use twice the special moves and Crit just as much in Crane stance in 3-4 dot fights, and usually outdamage my guildy when he's using Tiger Stance in those longer fights.

Now, what would make Tiger Stance viable is if we could open our finishers off of Critting with auto-attack white dmg-but thats not how its currently set up, and in Tiger Stance if you're out of Jin, you're basically screwed after using Boundless Fist a couple of times, and have to wait for your endo to regen while a mob is pounding on you- and in tougher, real men areas like the CIS, that will get you killed rather quickly.

In Crane, I can debuff mitigation and strength/dmg, Use a Couple of Boundless Fists, use a couple of finishers, Dodge if I need to, and still ahve endo left on my bar for whatever...in Tiger, I'll crit, sure, but half the time when I crit Im waiting on my endurence bar to fill up so I can use my specials, which is just stupid when we have a stanc that doubles our defense and gives out roughly the same dmg in 3-4 dot fights -which are the norm in the 20+ game...

And please dont come with this - "You dont know how to use Tiger stance crap"- ive tested each one of the Harmonious forms since early beta, and the results have always stayed the same. Tiger stance is moot in a 3-4 dot fight, and until they reduce the endo rates to 25-30% penalty and raise the crit rate slightly, its going to stay moot for players who know what theyre doing with Harmonious.