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Kaji

Jin Master
Ryujin
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New Monk Ability List

« on: January 23, 2007, 07:36:16 PM »

Hey guys,

I just finished a new ability list module - check it out and let me know what you think.

http://www.vanguardmonks.com/component/option,com_monkabilities/Itemid,56/


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Dojo

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Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2007, 08:20:55 PM »

First of all, you rock Kaji! This list is great

I have a question though. As we all know, before level 15, we all get skills from each discipline. My question is, after level 15, if something on that list is marked Dragon, does that mean that only Dragon monks will get this skill? Or is this a list of skills that every monks get?


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Dojo Jindo
Drunken Monk
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Kaji

Jin Master
Ryujin
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Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2007, 09:12:44 PM »

Ah, good question... I forgot to mention that while I do have data on some of the Dragon Mastery abilities from my buffed lvl 35 test character, they are the only ones I have. I don't have the level info yet on these, but I have the other details.

This list is not what you are seeing on other sites - there have been numerous changes to the numbers in recent patches, and almost nothing matches those old lists. I started out with a blank spreadsheet, and populated every single value from screenshots taken last night. So this is all totally fresh - click each link and you will see what I'm talking about. Nobody is showing this much data yet.

Back to the original question: The abilities you see now should be available to all monks. Notice that there are Dragon, Harmonious, and Drunken skills prior to lvl 14. There will be 3 new ability types as soon as I can finish gathering the data. These are: Dragon Mastery, Harmonious Mastery, and Drunken Mastery. These match the names from the tool tips in-game. If you go Dragon, you will get Dragon, Harmonious, Drunken, Ancient, etc, PLUS Dragon Mastery. You would not get Drunken Mastery, etc. Once I have all the data, these will be updated and I will implement a filter to let you hide the skills you can't possibly use.


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Jakik

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Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2007, 01:13:27 AM »

Very nice list. Good work


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Jakik
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jojo

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Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2007, 01:42:31 AM »

Best list I have seen so far, thanks muches!


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Rollo

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nerf rollo omg

Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2007, 03:10:39 PM »

Thanks Kaji, awesome info laugh

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best ability list i've seen anywhere for any class Tongue

i took screenshots of all the abilities I had just before beta closed too, I took the screen shots from my abilities tab in adventuring, so it shows me weaknesses and refresh times too if you want me to list them.

one thing i found was
lvl 12 - Thousand Fists I
Type: should be Finisher with a 1 min cooldown (crits up to nearly 800 with my lvl 15

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Ninbei

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Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2007, 07:30:42 AM »

Best list anywhere! Thanks for the completeness and cleaniness!

Now where are the discipline-specific abilities?


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Kaji

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Ryujin
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Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2007, 08:03:47 AM »

Quote from: Rollo on January 24, 2007, 03:10:39 PM

one thing i found was
lvl 12 - Thousand Fists I
Type: should be Finisher with a 1 min cooldown (crits up to nearly 800 with my lvl 15

)

Thank you. It's in my spreadsheet ready to go in the live db on the next update. Anyone else see any mistakes or typos? The figures marked with ?? need to be collected from the latest screenshots, but I'm still looking for a few things:

Dragon Mastery data for levels 35+
Drunken Mastery for 15+
Harmonious Mastery for 15+


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Soluss

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Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2007, 09:51:30 AM »

very well done Kaji. Thank you for all the work you do here.


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Kaji

Jin Master
Ryujin
Grandmaster

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Re: New Monk Ability List

« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2007, 10:27:04 AM »

I just updated the database with some new skills and info. Also, I added a feature to the skill details that lets you click through to the opener for a given finisher. It appears that there are 2 possible types of finisher - ones that can follow any opener, and ones that can follow exactly one opener (ie. Palm Explodes the Heart I.) I'm still playing around with this, so right now you can go from finisher (or advanced finisher) to it's opener. Later, I plan on adding links from opener to finisher, and finisher to advanced finisher. Hopefully this will clear up some of the confusion as to what opens what.