We were told we would get dummies to test the patch out on, but they are not on the test server (or if they are I haven't found them).

Everytime I have logged in, nearly everyone testing is doing trial of dawn with low level characters, no one is testing the bug fix.

I can confirm this as well tested all day saturday with solo buffs, and everything was fine.  This is under the assumption that the flat damage changes actually made it to the test though, apparently a lot of the disc changes didnt make it even though they were listed

Ok, I'll be the first to say I'm a bit worried now.  About a week or a week and a half ago, I tested my own damage solo vs. some of the 4 dot skeleton mobs in the core of NN, and saw nothing unusual... averaging 25k for Palm Explodes and about 20k for both hits from my Thousand Fists, used with Fists of Celerity.

Tonight I was only able to get 1 dsc to get on test with me (grr, annoyed), and he and I did a little fighting in Opu.  Now that I'm standing toe to toe with the 5 dots there which of course are of a more appropriate level for testing, I can see some pretty noticeable changes.  Normally in a group I get the numbers I mentioned above for my chains + Fists of Celerity just as averages.  I was not getting the size of hits expected from these same move combos tonight.

I ran a log for a 17 minute period, during which my friend and I killed 12 mobs.  Eyeballing the spike damage I got just from Palm Explodes, and ignoring the (rather unimpressive) 45k legendary, I was averaging 19k from that move.  Ouch, thats a nice -6k kick in the... toe.

My dps for the whole 17 minutes, including breaks between mobs while I made pencil notes, was 1872.  Ouch.  I'm not an avid parser, but according to the only recent raid log I can get ahold of, I 'm in the 3.5k range pre-nerf.  I would *really* like to get more on test and do more logs.

I'll try to drum up more support for another go on Saturday, same bat time.  With luck, I can get the bard to come and hopefully a cleric & bear shaman as well.

Alright, thanks, glad to hear better parsing technique lol... I was trying to do something like that when I was working in NN on test that day by taking logs of fights against the same mobs comparing my damage with and without Iron Hand up... It got way cumbersome to wait for Fists of Celerity / Three Finger to time down for each trial & I binned that idea, but if that's the right way, that's how I'll do it.

I'm using the Xanadu parser, and probably not well lol.  Would it be better if I posted some of the raw data from it?

Alright, I've made 40 log files, 20 with no damage buffs, and 20 using Iron Hand & the Withering Palm (+10 damage) recoil buff.  To ensure clean tests, I swapped my gear around so my Flow of Tranquility proc wouldn't get in my way.  For all trials, I did not use Fists of Celerity, the Thundering Fists chain, or the 3 Finger Strike chain.  I also did not use my Steal the Wind counter.  It may be worth noting that my husband blackmailed me into opening my mp3 player at trial 17, but I did not note any significant data changes due to system resource consumption.

First I calculated the mean average of my dps in both control and test rounds.  With no damage buffs, I averaged 1431.75 dps, and with damage buffs I averaged 1614.65.  I'm stuck using the windows calculator, so I'm not doing standard deviations =P

Next I looked at the average damage I scored in each trial from Ashen Hand.  Each data set included one clear outlier which I ignored.  With no damage buffs, I averaged 4053.78.  With damage buffs, I averaged 4933.07.

In my overall dps, you can see the approximate difference of 200 that you predicted, Fuji, but i'm scratching my head at the difference in my Ashen Hand averages.  I'm all scienced out for today though, so I'll repeat this on the live server another day

Right, I understand the reason for the 210 difference, Fuji, my point is that the "flat" fix is clearly not in place, as you pointed out here

As a further question, for the above formula that you mentioned, when calclulating your overall benefit from damage buffs, would you simply plug in the additional values of your damage buffs in summation where you placed the 200 from the Iron Hand?  E.G. 3(damage + 153) + Iron Hand+ 200 + 10 + 10% + .......