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Naftung
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« on: May 01, 2008, 08:58:18 AM »

So, been playing around with macro's and trying to get these legenadry big hits I've been reading about.  Current macro I've been using and liking-
lvl 45 Harm Monk

/itemuse "Belt of Ages" (+10% damage/haste.  usuable from inventory)
/cast "Fists of Celerity
/cast "Thousand Fists x"
/cast "Jin Surge x"
/cast "Thundering Fists x"

My average hits (self buffs only) with this have been 4-5k 1k fists and 5-6k on TF.  Normal crits are usually in the 10k, range.  Duo'ig with a bard I had a high hit of 33k  on TF =)

I did not run any full parses, but it seems JS before TF nets more dps then having it prior to 1k fists.  Has anyone else played around with these?
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 09:26:26 AM »

Not sure if that macro works at all.

because thousand fist is a 2second global cool down you would have to mash the hotkey over and over to get it to use jin surge then thunder fist.


As a drunken, ive tried the following
belt of the ages
errant strike
fist of celerity
thousand fist
jin surge
jolt

Then i manually click thundering fist.  Solo my high crits are about 10-15k  raids its about 50k hit, 62k crit.

Even with pally aura, i only got up to about 75k with crits.  Its refreshing to know this nerf only hurts poeple currently exploiting buffs, doubt its gonna do to much to the average monk who can only get 30-50k hits max.
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 09:45:56 AM »

It works just fine.  Was using it last night and this morning camping my FD rings (got one, need one more).

Press one-
Belt of Ages - activates. no Global cooldown, starts BoA cooldown
Fist of Celerity - activates. no global cooldown, starts FoC cooldown
Thousand fists - activates. triggers GC and 1kfists coodown
Jin Surge - skipped due to GC
Thundering Fists - skipped due to GC

wait for GC to cycle.
Press two-
Belt of Ages - skiped due to cooldown
Fist of Celerity - skipped due to cooldown
Thousand fists - skipped due to cooldown
Jin Surge - activates. no global cooldown
Thundering Fists - activates. trigger global cooldown and TF cooldown.

My real question, more directly stated is: Will I net more damage if I move JS before 1k fists?
Am I missing anything I could macro in?
I usually save force crit jin ability to open this up with.  Nice to drop a mob from 30% to 2% in 2 seconds  uglystupid2

Oh, and this macro is specifictly built to exploit the current combat mechanics.  I fully expect this to drop considerable when they fix it.  Even went back and replaced my threstan crafted gear with Kojani to get a few more points =)

In the mean time I will enjoy my 20k crits =)
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2008, 10:02:50 AM »

Thats what i ment, the macro doesnt work as a 1 button macro unless you press it more then once and only after waiting 2 seconds.

I think you get more damage from jin surge before 1k fist because its more damage to begin with, but due to timers and limited duration of skills like jolt its better for me in raids to use it on thunder fist
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 11:32:05 PM »

As someone who "exploits" current buffs, I don't macro any buffs into my thousand fist line.

I find that I do more damage macroing them into my Palm explodes the heart macro, then following up thousand fists line.

Hammer Fist has:
 Errant Strikes
/useitem "Belt of the Ages"
Staggering Fist
crescent kick
/reactionautocounter
/cast "Hammer Fist"
/reactionautochain

(I also use it as my spam finisher button, in order to maximize staggering fist and crescent kick during certain buffs)

Exploding Heart has:
Fists of Celerity
quickening jolt
staggering fist
crescent kick
/wear "Flawless Pariah's Power Bladed Staff of Devastation"
/reactionautocounter
/cast "Palm Explodes the Heart"
/reactionautochain

Then I spam the previous macro as soon as cool down is up, and chain that until fist line is done, by then Fists has usually worn off and I use ashen hand for the remainder of the buff duration.

I will generally use the 2nd macro again for fists of transcendence

It works as a one button macro, I split ES and FoC because sometimes due to lag one may not fire.  Other times however they used to fire normally, it is all about latency I guess (only so many commands went through on time before it is sent in to the servers maybe?)


In LoL raids, when we hit our max damage bursts on non General Vicus bosses (which I love how fujitsu refered to as exploiting since we simply call out our buffs as I'd imagine bow does, wish I cared enough to dig through the mud of Xeth's forums to see what exploits his guild has been accused of  Grin)

Palm explodes the heart for me usually ranges around 70-88k at the highest with a dot ranging from 6-12k

Fist chain ranges from 60-190k at the highest

They can fix whatever "bug" they want, I have never been an average monk and I won't be one after the change either.  If anything I find it funny that when there is talk of nerfs incoming suddenly Fujitsu is an average monk and can't for the life of him figure out how to burst over 100k whereas before he boasted breaking 6k on most parses and out damaging everyone in his guild.  You must have some insane secret damage or something Fujitsu, because I don't know how you can top 6k so much when you claim that you can't hit for more than 25-40k stacking ES and Fists of Celerity (by your own account on these boards).

I don't have great gear because I generally offer my members first crack at gear, but I think I know how to play my class.  It is just a game, it isn't rocket science, and you don't have to exploit to do burst damage similar to what Fusoya and Taliskar posted.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2008, 07:57:29 AM »

I never said vicus was exploiting i said him and the wringwraiths are the only two mobs i hit for over 100k.  Dont be a pencil dick, k thx.

I still do average over 6k on all parses and never have hits for 100k+ unless its one of the 2 mobs i mentioned. 

Its quite simple how i do my dps.

I have staggering fist/crescent kick macroed into every button i press.  I stay in aum kor and have max refresh haste, and I stagger errant strike/fist of celerity so i use one each time i thousand fist.  I never used both at the same time until recently.   I dont know what i did to piss in your cheerios but down right attacking me for no reason is classy act. 

whats your int at? mines close to 700 raid buffed and my secret of flame htis for about 2-3k a pop
Whats your total +%damage with out buffs? mines 53%, with raid buffs its closer to 90% (17% bard, 10%pal, 10%cleric).
I have no secrets and ill post a log next week of my dps and you all can see theres not 100k+ hits.  I dont use jin surge, and i dont stack fist/errant.

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2008, 09:04:40 AM »

As someone who "exploits" current buffs, I don't macro any buffs into my thousand fist line.

I find that I do more damage macroing them into my Palm explodes the heart macro, then following up thousand fists line.

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Good stuff Murugan,  I will try it out in 5 levels.  Being only level 45, 1kfists/TF is all I got to work with at the moment =)
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