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poutrozore
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« on: March 16, 2008, 12:43:48 PM »

hello,

when a monk fight with pure bare hands, is there any of the existing weapon specialization used / applied ? (handwraps specialization may be ? ) I did several test , and im still undecided...

thx for any input about this.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 04:39:15 PM »

Well since bare hands is by definition not a weapon, i doubt it.
If any do then it's a bug
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2008, 04:52:32 PM »

by definition, in martial arts, bare hand / open hand, are deadly weapon, as other body parts do : that s why it s called martial art....that's what monk are supposed to do = build mind / body / energy / techniques to become living weapon.
A weapon specialization called 'martial art' could fill the hole....allowing monk to choose between martial art with weapon and martial art without any weapon.
Actually, i feel more playing a light armored warrior than a monastic martial art adept.
Game still remain excellent, but when i picked monk, i really hoped being able to fight very efficiently without any weapon. Actually, fighting without any weapon is a suicide, and a self gimping attitude.
I just wonder if there's any chance the VG team want / can  'fix' this.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2008, 05:53:38 PM »

I salute your show of dedication to martial arts..
i just made monk to smack things in the face Tongue

You still do ok without a weapon, better than using green handwraps, but not as good as blue.
I feel if your idea was in practice, other classes would complain that monk is overpowered, and having uber dps without any need to get weapons is quite frankly boring, half the fun is getting new gear.
I'm sure Jackie Chan or whoever doesnt use knuckles and handwraps and stuff, but i like the variation of monk weapons in Vg.
Fighting with a piece of cloth wrapped around your hand is still bare fist fighting anyway Tongue
and in a fantasy world, it makes sense magical/enchanted wraps would increase your power
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2008, 10:16:54 PM »

In my opinion, we should get bonuses on weapons that are worth it (high +damage, +STR, a unique proc, etc), but otherwise deal just slightly less damage with bare hands. Otherwise, there would be no incentive to get items.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2008, 10:05:27 AM »

Sadly, while i really enjoyed the animations for bare handed fighting, i believe they're just a leftover from the original plan to have corpse runs... now that everything and it's brother binds when you equip it or pick it up... it's wasted leftover.
Personally, i'd love to see those animations applied to Handwrap weapons.. as it would make sense.  Your just using enchanted wraps around your hand attacks, not weilding a weapon like Ulak or Claws... but no, i get to see goofy extensions off my fists while i fight.  At least they look like primitive clothes irons... that helps ;p
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