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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2008, 05:55:22 AM »
I prefer to think of it as being a hokage and i sent genin on a scouting mission. 
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2008, 02:45:00 PM »
cool think ill start the griffon qeust  can we have griffon n wyrm perm mounts does anyone know?

also thanks fujitsu for the write ups  ect very much appreciated the stats n knowledge i gain from them is helping me a lot  coolsmiley
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2008, 04:48:13 PM »
Yes you can have both
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2008, 06:31:01 AM »
I've done with my monk the Abom/Pharao/Dog part of the quest, off to OT now.
The thing is that the Abomination fight is VERY hard.
I mean without a raid geared tank, and overly buffed, most tanks would be 2 or 3 shotted byt the abomination.
Also, some classes have a much harder times on this fight.
I tried to do it with my girl friend's disciple (and by the way, was grouped with Swang ^^) it was impossible to chain heal with end heals.

Monks are imho one of the most usefull class on this fight : they can dps and FD to clear aggro, can stance push, and also since the abom does ae hits you can parry a lot and then counter with the -50% dps debuff witch will help a lot.
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2008, 07:57:31 AM »
The first time i beat abom.

Me (drunk), rog, dk, shm, disc, sorc

Its possible for a disc to do it, just not as the only healer
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2008, 09:14:38 AM »
Do you know anything about the wyvern quest? Is it any easier since it is raided quest?
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2008, 09:48:05 AM »
it is SIGNIFICANTLY easier....if you can kill Dresla and Kotasoth.  Thats all that is required, complete that and you have the wyvren.  Literally thats it, kill 2 mobs.

That being said im only aware of 7 guilds that can kill Kotasoth, and Dresla only drops 1 egg a week.  So your looking at 4 months to get everyone a wyvren.  Where as griffin you can get everyone in the guild one in a month


All things equal kotasoth is a 10 minute fight and is pretty tough now.
Dresla is pretty easy, id rank her about as tough as the old X99
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2008, 10:32:39 AM »
Quote from: Fujitsu on April 09, 2008, 07:57:31 AM
Its possible for a disc to do it, just not as the only healer

A properly geared/specced disc can heal very well longer than any other healer except perhaps bloodmages, arguable with a 20%aggro redux stance and FD the disc can do it safer as well.

Its just extremely rare for a disc to persue all the right tools to max out their healing and do things like fight with a flawless hexing handwrap in mainhand + flawless healing focus in off hand etc. and build good macros to max out their effectiveness.
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2008, 04:14:41 PM »
Noone doubts that disciples are excellent and the best endurance healers,
I think fuj meant that disc adds the least to the group in terms of dps/stability.
One group with a disc as the only healer can be harsh at time, the same group with a cleric healer would have roughly 30%+ more dps, 1k more hp, 7% mit etc.

I have a disc and cleric both lvl 50, 95% of cases the group is better with a cleric.
Sure disc can heal longer, but it's very rare that my cleric will go oom too, and for stuff like Fungal Abom...disc or cleric couldnt single heal it anyway
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2008, 05:28:07 PM »
Yeah on a long term fight id go with a disciple any day myself.  But for the abomination, unless your fully raid buffed, a disciple alone probably wont be able to cut it.

Compared to shm/clr their buffs/debuffs are pretty weak.  Not to mention bonds arent exactly ideal for that fight, you dont have 30 sec to debuff a mob as an only healer vs abomination, its pretty much non stop spam healing jin/end/energy based heals.
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2008, 10:13:29 PM »
Quote from: Zerathule on April 09, 2008, 06:31:01 AM
I've done with my monk the Abom/Pharao/Dog part of the quest, off to OT now.
The thing is that the Abomination fight is VERY hard.
I mean without a raid geared tank, and overly buffed, most tanks would be 2 or 3 shotted byt the abomination.
Also, some classes have a much harder times on this fight.
I tried to do it with my girl friend's disciple (and by the way, was grouped with Swang ^^) it was impossible to chain heal with end heals.

Monks are imho one of the most usefull class on this fight : they can dps and FD to clear aggro, can stance push, and also since the abom does ae hits you can parry a lot and then counter with the -50% dps debuff witch will help a lot.

Hello ^^

Thats the point about this quest, its none to easy, and yea you will need a APW geared Tank. Monks can help a lot, but as a whole all of the group needs to be on the ball.
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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2008, 04:33:53 AM »
My point is that to kill something like the abomination you need a really good group, but get nothing as a reward.
You can do Hegne with a group of 4 (even 3 i suppose) and get amongst the best pre apw rewards.
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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2008, 08:20:50 PM »
Quote from: Fujitsu on April 09, 2008, 05:28:07 PM
Yeah on a long term fight id go with a disciple any day myself.  But for the abomination, unless your fully raid buffed, a disciple alone probably wont be able to cut it.

Compared to shm/clr their buffs/debuffs are pretty weak.  Not to mention bonds arent exactly ideal for that fight, you dont have 30 sec to debuff a mob as an only healer vs abomination, its pretty much non stop spam healing jin/end/energy based heals.



I guess I was understanding that most guilds were in fact raid buffing the groups that did this.  As for landing debuffs a disc's are instant cast and don't effect global cooldown.  Wink

But yeah if you were purely relying on what the individuals on a group bring to the table I would have to agree that cleric buffs are mindblowingly handy. 
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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2008, 08:25:18 PM »
Lol no, when i did fungal it was with a pick up group with just shm and disciple buffs ;-p
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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2008, 03:43:59 AM »
I've done the abo with a tank that was being two shoted by it without outside of the group buffs.
So unless you have a really good tanks, outside buffs are needed hard
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