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Fujitsu
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Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 07, 2008, 08:48:54 AM »
So after talking to some developers and guildies who have been testing since beta i figured id compile a list of caps i know about.
+melee Crit is caped at 40%
This includes 20% from dex, 5% for main handing a dual wielder, and 2.5% for off handing one, and all gear/stances that add crit
So a harmonious monk in crit stance is at the crit cap.
Stance : 30%
Dual wielders 7.5%
more then 200 dex 5%+
+melee dmg caps at 40% from gear/stances
This includes stances and gear with + melee dmg rating. this doesnt count bard songs or other buffs
Dragon monks come the closest to the cap with full raid gear and stance.
24% + 10% from gear
+dmg is linked to +melee dmg cap
Ideally, youd want 40% dmg and 40% melee dmg rating for the spell bonus on secrets, but realisticly if you had to pick, naturally go for +dmg
Haste is CURRENTLY caped at 40% (This might or might not change)
20% from item, 20% from stance/spell/song
In the simplest of situations: (This is really simplified)
100% haste cuts a weapon delay in half (2.15 fist wraps become 1.075)
50% haste reduces delay to 75% of the original
40% haste reduces delay to 80% of the original (2.15 fist wrap becomes 1.72)
There was a minimum delay for weapons, i dont remember it but i want to say its 1.6 or 1.7 seconds. (This is definitely something that might have changed since beta)
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Swang
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 07, 2008, 09:49:07 AM »
Hmm well i always thought the crit cap to be between 60-65%
But actually this confirms the parse i took several months ago which showed Harmo critting for 42% (guess the extra 2% may have come from forced crits)
Even More of a reason for Harmo Monks to lose all their Dex and pump int, and to pick up gear more focused on % damage, Int or HP anything in fact other than more %crit. Any Harmos worried about losing 2% avoidance from swapping dex for Int shouldn't be, were still good enough to off Tank "Mortweave" Palpenipe the Masterminds add
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Fujitsu
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 07, 2008, 09:52:34 AM »
yea id bet that that 2% was from cleave and other forced crits from bards/rogues. cause my guildie is a harm and im drunken and we both sit at the same crit % so we both use middle stance... 2 min timer on peh with raid buffs blows him out though ;-p
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Zealots
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 09, 2008, 05:35:54 PM »
1.Whats peh?
2. So we should dump dex, or alot of dex and put in int. for secrets damage?
a. How much int before we are cap'd for damage in secrets?
3. What is it if we are using a 2h?
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Fujitsu
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 09, 2008, 06:10:39 PM »
1) Palm explodes the heart (lvl 50 finisher)
2) If your harmonious you can probably dump all dex and put it into int
a) 900 int will cap your secret dmg (minus songs/buffs)
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LeadFoot
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 12, 2008, 01:49:12 PM »
So basically Harmonious monks get screwed over with the APW gear which has a lot of crit% chance. This does absolutely nothing for us.
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Fujitsu
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 12, 2008, 02:04:34 PM »
most apw gear has + dmg or + melee dmg as well as + crit.
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LeadFoot
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 14, 2008, 01:28:21 PM »
yes but a much higher percent of +crit than +dmg. And you can easily get non-APW gear for +crit if you want. Rings, earings, neck pieces, etc plus normal armor. I wish they would at least put a really nice monk 2H sword in APW.
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Fujitsu
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 15, 2008, 06:05:30 AM »
Just curious, but why a 2h sword? The only swords are martial swords and thats more of a defensive weapon.
THey did add a bunch of new 2 handers to the game for the DK revamp, and they added a 2hb (martial staff is my guess, but could be great staff) to apw for sure. Just have to wait for someone to find it.
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Ronmaru
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Re: Crit/dmg and other caps
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March 15, 2008, 11:53:50 AM »
I'd partially agree with fuj on this one. No real sense in putting a monk sword in apw as a monk is EXTREMELY unlikely to be tanking. But...it might give an extra edge on pulling, (pun intended) esp for dragon monks.
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