Drunken offensive = +damage, +agro. Drunken neutral = +haste, +dodge. Drunken defensive = +dodge, -accuracy. ~ Or whatever the specifics are.
The reason why the stance you call offensive don't have penalties is because it's the neutral stance.

The main hangup with your proposed offensive and defensive stances is that they have increased bonuses and no inbuilt penalties. The Monk stances don't work that way. In fact, most stances in general don't work that way. You've usually got to sacrifice something to get something else.


This is incorrect.  Drunken Master stance does not have any penalties with it.  Its +haste and +dodge.  I would also say that Drunken Fist's + aggro component is the penalty if you are in a group and you are not the tank.  If you don't feel this is the case then the only stance we have that has a penalty is the one that is worthless.





I agree here.  If we were to get a defensive stance with no negative side effects the heavy fighters would have some not so nice words for us and the devs.  But I am under the opinon that the defensive stance should offer the best + aggro and the best +avoidance of all our stances.  This of course at the expense of accuracy. 

This would make our defensive stance two steps behind the heavy tanks, but would make us the next best thing.  We gain avoidance where they gain mitigation and avoidance.  But we also lose accuracy where they lose just damage.  This works the same way as our streaky avoidance  does vs mitigation.

Example:
We attack 100 times for 100 damage.
Monk: hits 90 times for 100 damage
heavy tank: hits 100 times for 85 damage.

I'd rather hit every time for 85 then miss 10 out of 100.  Steady progressive is always better then fast/spikey.  If you miss your jeering kick or thousand fists, it's a pita.


I like this idea, but I see problems arising if something requires you to change your def target.  You then are required an extra button push and extra global cooldown.  This extra 2 to 3 seconds could make or break the fight.

When I am tanking and if I need to use jeering kick, the taunt time on it is not long enough for me to do anything else (besides maybe auto attack) before the mob is back on someone else.  This is especially true of I am low on endurance in the middle of a fight.  With waning palm being somewhat unreliable especially with the method of its delivery, adding in even another global cooldown and button push would make monk tanking for me anyways, an even more dangerous proposition.

For soloing, the parry bonus is good if u can find a nice rare sword. This is especially true if u are harmi monk since the reaction attack after a parry is a nice -50%dmg debuff, tho it only lasts 8 seconds. 

3.  25-30% total evasion gain is the minimum Drunken defensive stance would need to be competitive, but getting any more than that seems very unlikely in light of the global evasion changes.
I also don't believe it's feasible to get such a large bonus without also getting a penalty somewhere. Even tanks don't get to use their defensive stance without some kind of significant penalty. The -10% accuracy should stay in place of aggro generation, the later of which would just be benefit stacked on benefit with no downside at all.

Monk Path of the Drunken Style

"The way of the drunken monk is one of deception and unseen power.  Practitioners of the drunken style are taught to keep themselves off balanced, striking from impossible angles and tempting opponents to strike at openings that do not really exist.  Students learn to stagger about to dodge and infuriate their opponents.  They also learn to use powerful counterattacks which benefit them greatly due to their evasive nature."

Given the Grandmaster's assesment of drunken monks (and who am I to argue with a Grandmaster), drunken style monks excel at evasion while exploiting deceptive manuevers that infuriate their opponents.  As such, our stances should be evasive by nature and reflect this path of "deception and unseen power".

I'm sure these could be tweaked, but this would be my general vision of what drunken monks should bring to the table.

Proposed Drunken Style Stances


- Drunken Fist Stance - 15%(20,25) damage increase, 5%(10,15) accuracy increase

The most offensive of the drunken style stances, Drunken Fist Stance represents the unseen power of the drunken style monks.  In this stance, drunken monks sacrifice their more deceptive and complex evasive manuevers in favor of powerful focussed attacks.  Because of this, drunken monks fighting in this style forego any evasive benefit beyond their base ability to dodge or parry incoming attacks.  Damage and accuracy bonus scale with level.


- Drunken Sway Stance - 20%(25,30) dodge and parry increase, 20%(30,40) increased agro generation

The most defensive of the drunken style stances, Drunken Sway Stance embodies the uniquely evasive nature of the drunken style monk.  The off balanced and staggering steps of the Drunken Sway Stance infuriate opponents, tempting them to strike relentlessly at openings that do not exist.  Dodge, parry, and agro generation increase with the monks level.


- Drunken Master Stance - 10%(15,20) dodge and parry increase, 50% damage reduction, Agro generated from this stance is redirected towards the monks defensive target

The Drunken Master Stance is the epitome of the drunken monk's deceptive nature. Instead of infuriating his opponent, the swaying steps and mishappen attacks of the Drunken Master Stance work to confound and placate the monk's opponent.  In a subtle and uncanny dance of drunken style subterfuge, monks in this stance are able to redirect aggression in the midsts of the chaos of battle.  Dodge and parry increase with the monks level.