Ahhhh, now that makes more sense to me, now.  I couldn't figure out why you were able to do 5-6k dps and I could only manage around 2 - 2.5k.  I guessed that it had mostly to do with gear, seeing as I only have a few pieces from the entrance wing, but it still didn't seem like gear would increase dps by that much.  It makes sense now, because I've not had psi buffs and bard song at the same time before and I can definately see hitting thousand fists every 20s instead of every 45s making a huge difference.

I'd say either harmonious or drunken.  I don't know much about drunken abilities, but they are supposed to be the most survivable of the monks.  However, as harmonious, I love having Find the Center, which makes me invulnerable to melee attacks for 20 Seconds.  I still have trouble with casters, but I don't know that any monk has tools to avoid casters yet.

Your reply sparked a thought for me:

I wonder if the reason they are not revealing details on how to produce the 200k hits is because it falls under the category of exploit/bug.  I'm just speculating, of course, I don't know what's really going on, but it seems reasonable to me that now that they have identified this bug, they wouldn't want to disseminate it further to those who aren't already exploiting it.

The reason your post sparked this thought is that if you're fishing for a guide on how to hit for over 200k so that you can use it to further your raid's goals, that would remove a significant portion of the challenge of the content for your raid.  In any case, it's not something that your raid should be reliant on to succeed as it will be removed from the game as soon as the devs work out all the bugs.

I'm curious, do you guys consider the hits that show up in the log as "you quickly strike X, dealing Y damage" and "An errant strike hits X, dealing Y damage" to be separate hits?  Because those aren't actually separate, individual hits; they're results of the fists of celerity and errant strikes buffs.  They may show up as separate hits in the log but they are all part of the same, single hit.

I've been reading your posts and I can appreciate your wanting proof, but be sure that you aren't assuming that Fusoya and Talisker are fabricating things either.  Fusoya already posted screen shots for you that showed a 200k hit resulting from one attack and Talisker also posted information about what's happening in the code that they have seen.  Unfortunately, I don't think that you're going to get a look at the actual game code unless you get hired by the vanguard dev team, though, so we're going to have to take their word at some point.

Moral of the story is:  asking questions and wanting proof is fine, more power to ya, but if you automatically assume that the answers were made up, what's the point?  200k+ hits are happening, if you can't reproduce them then don't worry, the update won't significantly effect you.  (btw, I'm a harmonious monk and the highest hit i've ever done is around 50k I think)

Mine has been working as far as I can tell; when the fire elemental guys cast their AE, it drops off of me pretty quickly

Is this an actual parse?  If so, then I don't know.  If its just hypotheticals, then I think I can see a mistake:

In raid thats with all + damage, my melee damage is at ~3000:
(3000 + 155)*3  ==~9.5k

That would be your damage without any +flat damage buffs.  If I understand right, you'd have to add the flat damage to thousand fists 9 times (3 times for the 3 effects in thousand fists times 3 for base + errant + celerity), then double it for quickening jolt (which applies after errant and celerity I believe).

The formula talisker gave was:

total damage = (ability damage + flat damage) * % damage buffs

so your total damage will be (28.5k + X) * 2 where X is whatever damage you got from the flat damage, which I understand can be rather high  .

Let me know if my math is off, I'm tryin to get an idea of how this is working.

It sounds like we aren't going to see any major revamp for a while, but that doesn't mean that we won't be looked at.  Silius did say that bug fixes will still happen.  A lot of our issues would fall into the category of bugs, I think.  ie. FD not working right is a bug in my book, skills not working right are bugs, etc.

We can't be selfish, though, and whine and complain just because we aren't getting first priority over other classes.  They gave us a big patch (and no, it wasn't just harmonious monks that got improved in gu3) and now its the other classes' turns.

By all means, we need to continue reporting bugs and wish lists, but this gloom and doom over not being a major highlight of a game update is ridiculous.

Now, I know I'm not making any friends with this post so I'll offer up a rule of thumb I use for determining whether I can be happy with my class.  Hopefully, it'll provide some insight into my perspective more.

I'm a dps class and I also like to pull for my groups.  I also like to do steady dps but have an OH SNARF!! ability to use in a pinch.  So my rule is this: 

As I'm doing dps, do I have to hold back dps in order to not take aggro from my tank?  If the answer is yes, I can be happy with my class.  If I have enough control over my dps to not take aggro but have the ability to take aggro pretty much whenever I want, then the answer is I can be very happy with my class.

In my groups, does my group allow me to pull for them when I ask to?  If yes, then I can be happy with my class.  If my group asks me to pull for them, then I can be very happy with my class.

I try to avoid the whole "the grass is always greener" complex and use these rules to determine whether I'm having fun when I log on.  I find I usually can enjoy myself when I'm not worried about how I stand in comparison to other players and I believe that's what its all about, right?

I'd kinda like to pursue these suggested stances some more.  I play a harmonious monk and I can say that the harmonious stance changes would be excellent.  I don't know how the other stance proposals would feel to dragon and drunken monks, though.

If you once could, but now can't, my guess is someone in your IT department noticed the site and blocked it in the firewall.  Another cause could be that they've started using a content filter based on some rating system and blocked whatever rating that system assigned to this page.  In any case, though, I don't think the meta tags are the reasons.  They could be though, you never know what some systems use these days 

We already have a temporary damage booster ability, actually.  Fists of Celerity gives us double damage for 20 seconds on a 5 min reuse.

I'd still like to consider making transcendence a defensive oriented secret.  I feel that another damage oriented secret (secret of fire being the other) would be a waste as there will always be one that is never used because it adds less damage than the other. 

For transcendence I would like to see something that adds to all damage resists and possibly a melee damage returned as health aspect, as we discussed in the previous thread dedicated to transcendence.  My ideal would be:

+ % to melee damage
+ x arcane damage
+ x to each damage resist type
+ % damage dealt returned as health

I would love for this to happen.  Pulling would be much easier and faster if secret of ice would snare when i throw shurikens.

As for the dragon only secrets, they sound like they'd be just what the doctor ordered.  I hope you guys get em

I don't know much about it (I'm taking a course on web programming atm, so I'll know more over the next few months!), but I believe the meta tag has to do with how the site works with search engines.  If I understand correctly, it's needed in order to show up when people search for vgmonks, vanguardmonks, etc.  I could be wrong though, I'd also be interested to find out more about what that tag actually does.

According to Phathom, we can expect a few smaller patches before game update 4.

http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=26019&#298924

Not really, since its been the holiday season and most of Sony's staff has been on vacation.