Thats all well and good if your invited into the raid...Group 4 sucked for a long time as a monk. Plenty of guilds dont pull with monks. What do we do for a living? DPS. If we cant fulfill that role what will we do then? Perma FD for wipe insurance? all become Harmo monks and "debuff" the mobs?  With your adjust ...(which I grant I havent seen, just going by history) will adjust us right into group 4 or beyond.
Well at least the rumor is  that group 4 will now become viable because melee DPS will be so pathetic.
Ooooh look raids working as intended.
And I still do not understand why you cant explain what the bug is.

Look, instead of calling it a bug fix lets call it what Draxs and fusoya are alluding to. Its a way for the Devs to get control of DPS. There is no bug. They want lower melee DPS to achieve their ultimate pecking order goal. ie Sorc top of the food chain all others come after. So lets call it what it is. A melee math revamp (resulting in drastic reduction thru all levels of melee) that will suit what SOE wants. For some reason Fusoya has bought into this. Shrug, i rememebr when you did a search for a rogue or a monk back in Dec 06 or Feb 07 you might see 10. This will have the same effect. Especially since most people dont read these boards.Nor do they frequent the OVF. All they will see is a drastic reduction in their chars DPS and leave. This game is on precarious ground as it is. To make a monumental change like this with out being absolutely sure you have "whats wrong" is a big mistake.
Like I said Im a drunken monk. I have all the same skills you do Fusoya. I get all the buffs. My gear may be less. Im pretty dang good at my class. Try as I may I cant hit like you do ...nor can I solo any mobs in APW.
Id sure like to see you do it. Racing an entire raid and you almost killing faster than them (shakes head) .

As stated this will be "fixed" soon. I an tryin to tear apart the mechanics of a raid buffed monk and see whats causing the huge hits. As fujitsu says you still need a base hit of 133k with all the stars aligned to hit like you say you do every 2 mins. So share or dont share. shrug. However the community will have no real way to judge if what you are saying is in fact correct . Or, maybe its something else that someone else might notice that you havent.
Its obviously not an exploit because you admitedly use it . Heck even our class lead says he does it. So that logic kinda falls by the wayside.

Everytime I ask they say errant fists fist of celerity and jolt...then they allude to some technique or buffs or what have you that allows them to pull this off. Im not assuming they are fabricating anything. Im just saying better monks than I are incapable of duplicating what they are saying. So that leads me to believe there is something other than abilities, gear or buffs coming into play here. If its a superior way to play my class Id sure like to learn it. Thats all Im saying.
Obviously they say they are doing 200k hits every 2 mins or less....plus they say they can solo APW mobs in 5-6 hits please explain so i can learn how to do this too. Would help on raids greatly.
Yet everytime they post there are no specifics.

Why be cryptic about it Draxs...i said ive used that very combo and not achieved 200k hits. So lay it out there and let us know...Plus i wanna know how you solo APW mobs in 5-6 hits? Ive read that post by the Dev and I dont understand how you can make 200k hits. So spell it out im a dope

Vicus as we know is irrelevant because everyone does crazy damage during rallying cry. However Im not disputing we can do good sustained damage. like i said im moderatly raid equipped and on my best day im at around 4500 dps over the course of a raid. BUT I never hit for over 50k in one crit and I surely cannot solo an APW trash mob and defintely not in 5-6 hits as you claim.
Like I said , Id like to see video on this or comprehensive screen shots.
Showing me multiple hits at 23k strung together is what monks should be doing that are well geared. Its our job.
Its not like we hit for 23k every punch. Most of my crits are around 10-13k with an occasional 20k hit. I am drunken monk also. Even fighting the Pharoah and activating errant strikes , fist of celerity and jot 10 secs into the fight I dont pull off numbers like that.
So once again I ask what strikes or combos are you using to garner this kind of supposed "uber" damage. Im not seeing it. And I really wanna know what strikes you use to solo an APW trash mobs in 5-6 hits .

Thanks in advance

so has this new CL written anything of note i can read? Or posted an opinion anywhere? Id like to read where he stands on the issues facing the monk class. Can anyone drag him to the MONK FORUM and have him/her post

The offical forums are now rife with people calling for teh nerf of monks and rogues dps. Primarily by DPS caster types. Even class leads are jumping on the bandwagon. Someone even quoted a Dev that stated melle DPS was out of control. What the heck is going on? Who is standing up for us? This is a pretty one dimensional class. DAMAGE.
Pulling is done by alot of classes now and done better by some. FD is shared with a 2 other classes. Stance pushing? 2 other classes that do it better. I mean 48 endurance a push isnt very efficient. So what else can we do?
We need someone to put a halt to all these nerf cries or we are gonna get hosed. What do you guys think?

Hey Brothers and Sisters

I see alot fo you listing handwraps as your primary weapons. Is this true? Id would have thought a 2 handed weapon would be preferred. I use the greystone staff and Im usually number 2 in dmg dealt behind the rogue in our guild when raiding APW. Would I do even more dmg with T5 handwraps of striking etc?

Appreciate any insight and recommendations for weapons I can get outside APW to make me more effective

Thanks in advance

Brother Gang

Im hearing alot of people say that INT is good for secret dmg and of course strenth overall is good. With the ability to reallocate stats would it be wise to dump dex for INT maybe?

You are hitting that hard with handwraps? I have 90% orange gear. Hmm Im not getting something

Hey guys! Level 50 drunken monk here. As I read these forums I cant help but notice that you guys are doing ALOT more damage than I do. I dont think ive ever hit for more that 19k ever.
I have almost 600 str and about 400 dex I use the bladed staff from greystone that has 84dps on it.
I use secrets iron palm and aum kor usually.
When I use finishers they hit for 3-5k, crit for 10-11k.
fists of celerity and errant strikes are on such a long reuse timer they are inconsequential.
Should I be using macros or something to up my dmg ?
If so can someone suggest a few
Id like to be as effective as possible to help my guild during raids.
Thanks in advance
Gang