Vanguard Monks

God I'm so tired right now, so this will be short and to the point.  Got some time off work this week, so i just had a good 12 hour session, wheee.  Was going great untill I went the back way to southwatch and got murdered by the undead behind the gate.  Well 3 corpses later we get to my point:

Basing FD off of mobs level reletive to you was such a bad idea. Why is it not skill based?   I came from alot of years playing a monk in EQ.  Having to ask someone to drag MY 3 corpses was just.....theres no words.  And i know every monk reading this feels my pain.  They were there, I could see them in the distance taunting me. There was nothing i could do.  Nothing.

Floping.  Its a skill, an artform.  It's part of who we are. Why are we not down with the floping my brothers? I'll tell you why!  Because "the man" is holding us back!

I dont know.  Anyways, im going to bed.  Share my pain in this time of need.

Amen


P.S.  wru sneak

Climb the Wall. Jump the mountian to the left and run at high ground, until u are clear of the buggy mobs at the gate.
And do some pay back time in Greystone^^

In APW all the creatures are level 53, you won't believe the Fd fail rate, think my record is 7 in a row (will take + post a screenshot next time ^^). Nothing is more annoying and makes you look more noobish when trying to split, and the mobs just run up and hammer your face in  :laugh:
When you try to lose aggro in fights with a quick FD..but it fails 5 times, you've essentially lost loads of hate anyway from being out of the fight so long.
As far as lore goes, don't monks stop their own hearts and brain waves to appear dead? so it should be 100% success rate :P
Nah just kidding, we're lucky at all to have FD what a great ability, i certainly wouldn't trade it for sneak/invis.

It is skill based... you're assumed to have 10x your level in skill. But the difficulty roll is checked versus the mob's level or something. I'm still working on where to find the +FD item myself, supposedly somewhere in the dungeon in Kassur Hakrel.

I've only found two in the Curse DB...

http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1388875/ (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1388875/)
http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1413530/ (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1413530/)

The ring seems to spawn off Clawbeast Matriarch Marlisk, who has a 10-15% chance of spawning and about the same for the actual ring dropping. Here's a map of the dungeon:

http://targonor.net/vg/pmwiki.php?n=Main.KarrusHakrel (http://targonor.net/vg/pmwiki.php?n=Main.KarrusHakrel)

Then again, the board where I found the info on which mob drops it, had the then-current Disciple lead posting that +FD items weren't doing anything.

Hey hold your horses. I never said anythign about trading it for sneak.  haha

Although, I would make some sacrifices.  I'm not saying I want a get outta jail free card.  I'd be happy going back to EQ style FD, in such, gets broken by spell casting and AE's ect.  Took some good timing, skill, and use of your enviroment, to get out of a room full of casters or pull them.  Seems more dumbed down in VG.  Same with pulling.  It either works or it doesnt kind of thing.  I know they are working on that, and I would just like to bring some awareness to the way it works aswell.

It's retarded and i cant even imaging pulling raid mobs with it, Simonson.  God forbid i go to a dungeon a couple levels higher than me and try to pull for my group.

Khana,  If thats the case, than the difficulty roll needs to be checked against a skill WE work on, our skill.  Not the mobs level or some skill x10 they made up.

I got Pauldrons of Tarkas.  Can't say as +8 makes much of a difference.  Though i'd be interested to see if that ring does. Do you know what level that dungeon is?  Anywho I wouldnt want to rely on item to make one of our core abilities work reliably...

The mob you need to kill is a 40 4-dot, single, but with wandering 40 4-dots. In case of a Dragon like me, you really need to be 50 in order to get it.

I've been trying, btw... so far: about a dozen Matriarch spawns and no ring - took me about 3 hours on end so far.

same here 4 days, 30+ named matriarchs, 0 rings, 30 rogue daggers

I finally got it - about 3.5 hours, 14 named matriarchs. A dagger dropped, with about 30 DPS and 84 one-hand piercing or something. Now let's hope it works.

Ran down 2 spawns she popped and dropped it

about a 10 min spawn, she spawned lvl 36/4dot for me.

Avarem just confirmed on the SOE boards that +FD items don't currently do anything.

Well when they fix them mabey they can fix FD while thier at it.  lol

He said they'll revamp the +FD items replacing the °FD by "other cool stuff for monks and disciples" ...
Wonder what that means ?

Probably an instant Jin boost or something - can't think of anything else that would be mutually beneficial to both classes.

The low level (20's?) hunters league quest from upside garrsion also has a +8 shoulder piece i believe. Doubt that +8 does anything even if it does "work"

it means camping this ring for the feign death boost was a waste of my time :-/

I knew it might not work beforehand and still went and got the item - you never know what they might put on it. Maybe they'll eventually even make the only wise decision - to make FD skill based again like in beta and EQ1.

Meh, I don't know if i got the patience anymore.  lol

Quinn, any word on when they'll be adding in the random walking pace? Any word on whether returning FD to skill-based mechanics is even on the table?

I think this is something all monks would like to know.  If you could look into it that would be awesome.