Vanguard Monks

Ok so this was another parse from graystone, we killed a variety of mobs, (yes some skeletons, and some non skeletons).  We had:
Me = 42 harmonious monk  (446 str) (71DPS bladestaff)
Bracio  = 42 Ranger (he said he kinda tried and he kinda didn't, interpret as you will) (387 Str) ( x2 53.7 DPS LongSwords)
Feniqs = 39 Bloodmage
Frostwind = 41 warrior
Tefnutkin = 43 Sorceror
Dragothic  = 42 warrior

Fights were fast, we killed mobs extremely quickly (this may have been the reason the ranger didn't make his potential as far as DPS is.  Ranger stances take time for them to gain +dam and +acc so the fast fights probably crippled him from getting a larger DPS parse.) 

Here are the numbers, interpret as you will.  Not sure if this is good or bad.........



Entity Name:      * You
Total Hits:      1735
Total Damage:      3173464
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      12113
Total Time in Combat:   3413
Average Swing Time:   1.967147
Damage Per Second:   929.8166
Damage Per Hit:      1829.086

Entity Name:      Bracio
Total Hits:      2009
Total Damage:      2125212
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      5550
Total Time in Combat:   3504
Average Swing Time:   1.744151
Damage Per Second:   606.5103
Damage Per Hit:      1057.846

Entity Name:      Feniqs
Total Hits:      58
Total Damage:      21776
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      934
Total Time in Combat:   161
Average Swing Time:   2.775862
Damage Per Second:   135.2547
Damage Per Hit:      375.4483

Entity Name:      Frostwind
Total Hits:      1645
Total Damage:      1539178
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      12124
Total Time in Combat:   3161
Average Swing Time:   1.921581
Damage Per Second:   486.9276
Damage Per Hit:      935.6705

Entity Name:      Tefnutkin SprogRocket
Total Hits:      84
Total Damage:      197381
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      5743
Total Time in Combat:   250
Average Swing Time:   2.976191
Damage Per Second:   789.524
Damage Per Hit:      2349.774

Entity Name:      Dragothic
Total Hits:      2036
Total Damage:      1203151
Lowest Hit:      0
Highest Hit:      4125
Total Time in Combat:   3555
Average Swing Time:   1.746071
Damage Per Second:   338.4391
Damage Per Hit:      590.9386

We should make all of telon skeletons!!!  :laugh: We have found our niche!.

I knew we were starting to close the gap on DPS, but unfortuneately the data is skewed with the skeletons so *meh*.


~QTM

but........but........... doesn't the comparison between rangers vs monks count for something?  dont they hit harder against skellies too?  is it really that worthless?  :(

No they don't hit harder on skellies, only "blunt" type weapons.  I guess Bladed Staff counts under this category.  We've seen a lot of parses but they all seem to be in Graystone which don't really help.  Someone needs to do Rhaz Inkur or something.

ahh, im gonna head away form graystone and do some more parses then.  i guess 2 hand piercing counts under the "blunt" weapon category because 2hp is what goes up when i use my weapon.  Oh well =D  Back to the drawing board.  I'll probably end up deleting this thread or something then

To get an accurate parse you need all parties involved in parsing then compare.  You can look at the logs and check but from the parsing I've done it only shows your dot damage and your damage with vulnerability exploiting.  Which means any parse that you do will be skewed with others not showing all the damage they are actually doing.  Have your friends log and parse themselves and see what they come up with.

Dena

It's some of our finishers and some counterattacks that deal blunt damage - regardless of weapon wielded. Likewish, a ranger using blunt wepaons and a finisher wont be dealing massive damage.

This has not been consistently applied.  Mucking around in Fields of Despair and Plains of Anguish (scattered with skeleton mobs), I noticed that while Thousand Fists was most definitely getting the blunt damage bonus, Thundering Fists was not.  Same goes with other attacks, although the differences are not as noticeable as with our big-hitting finishers and would require parsing.  As mentioned above, this was regardless of weapon type - Thousand Fists was doing the extra damage whether I was using claws, fist wraps, martial staff or martial sword.

I can't see any reason why these attacks should be treated differently versus skellies.  Either they tie a lot of them to our weapon type, or they readjust them to be blunt across the board.  It needs a fix.

yeah, it's refeshing to see we are improving but we need to compare vs none skels. Even at 27, i'll crit skels for 3000-4000dmg very frequently, meanwhile an equal lvl range will report a max crit of 1500-200. we really do DESTROY skels.