Vanguard Monks

So i looked in my bank today, the graystone bladed staff now has 10% higher base dmg than T5 crafted staffs.

Well overall now it is slightly more damage than a Flawless pariah's power bladed staff of devastation, also it has better attributes and crit/accuracy on it........and you can equip it at lvl 41

You monks that deconed it will be kicking yourselves now  :buck2:

That doesn't look right, though. Should the reward of a T4/early T5 quest line really be better than a T5 UR crafted item costing upwards of 1p at the cheapest?

Sadly yes, the intent was to make droped/quest gear better then crafted so people have a reason to adventure and not just broker.

On the same hand, they did go a bit overboard with their dmg on most weapons/items

(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/15/graystonestaffcd1.jpg) (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8784/bladedstaffub2.jpg)

Attack with Graystone: 1128-1263  (avg:1195.5)                       
Attack with Crafted: 1117-1245 (avg:1181)


A big kick in the nuts for us crafters, thankfully handwrap of striking is still the best 1 hander

The cragwind bladestaff might even have more base damage then the graystone one. I know it is over 80 and I thought it was over 81 when I logged my monk in last night. The graystone staff obvisouly has much better stats still.

Supposedly avair added a new 2hb to apw.  He also added a new 2hs for DK.  I have no clue if the 2hb is monk usable, but i would assume so since the only other 2hb is caster focus items. 

The cragwind weapon might have more DPS, but i'm pretty sure it has lower damage range : it is a faster weapon than the Graystone and the crafted bladed staff, so in the end you'll do less DPS.
I dont have the Graystone yet, is the quest hard ?
Would it be doable with a duo of monk and Disciple 46 ? or would it require more people ?

Don't you mean "disciple" usable?  :buck2:
WIlling to bet it will have 20+ vit on it
Hell..wouldn't be a surprise if it had healing focus on

They should just scrap healing stats on monk/disc weapons, 90% of discs are just wannabe monks anyway

Edit: probably not doable like that at 46, possibly if you are very careful, but it will take a very long time.

Id be really sad... that said i wouldn't be really surprised.

The point of the new dk weapon (they actually added a ton across all levels and in all areas) was to adress their new 2 handed wield prefrence.  I just happened to ask the DK working with avair to try to sneak a monk two hander weapon in. 

That doesnt mean it IS a monk weapon, for all i know avair could easily have made a 2 handed great hammer for dks.

Damn it, I never did the Graystone line with my monk because I went with the cragwind staff straight to a PBSoD.

180 271 for cragwind's staff

Is the new 2hb in apw confirmed or just rumors? If there is one for monk ill be very happy!

rumours till it drops like everything else :-p

That being said tonight is the first actual night raiding will be posible

http://vanguard.xanadu-community.com/items.php?page=viewItem&id=16

looks worse than greystone?

I believe it is a new legendary that was being reffered to.

It is my guess that it will not actually be dropped in APW though, I'm only guessing here but I think it is going to come from Fengrott. This is solely based on the idea that they added the new DK weapon to Dres so it seems like they would have added it to new mobs rather than chenging APW loot tabels.

I do hope they put one in the game for all of you who preffer 2hander weapons, I completely agree that the option really need to exist as well as atlest 1 more legendary 1hander (prefferably with melee centric stats +STR/DEX/INT/CON in that order)

Ok so whats the end answer? Graystone vs Stormslam vs 2x flawless fist wraps of striking vs crafted staff(lvl48) ones. Whats the best dps for group and which is best for solo? I am really clueless even after reading every discussions on weapons

i would go with the graystone staff its a pretty cool weapon and and far as the wraps with striking there a nice pair to have but depending on ur situation if u can get a pair go for it but i wouldnt go bankrupt over the wraps or the crafted staffs.

stormslam over graystone i dont think so :o,, if i remember correctly. did they ever nerf the qeust on that i know when i did it all i needed was to get to the part of the qeust where i need certain # of writs to spawn each mob if u just get the qeust and if u or anyone in ur grp has all the writs then the whole grp who has that part of the qeust get credit and can get there graystone weapon :angel:

heres the new raid weapons (http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm133/dustinfoley/2hander.jpg)

Gonna try to get it upped to 85 dps so its more dmg then the graystone staff

curious, was the ancient dust a drop, decon, or harvest?

raid drop

On that note, it would be nice if they let you decon all the rot gear and make it into these dusts.  5 months and 2 dusts, but over 60 rotted items.

(http://www.legionoflegendsguild.com/download/file.php?id=410&mode=view)

Like I said on vgplayers I disagree with you Fujitsu I don't think these should be changed at all.  It is the crystal that is legendary which is then crafted with heroic materials and other crystals, not a legendary dropped staff, therefore only the stat/proc/whatever the crystal gives should be "legendary".  The increase in item level does give a 30 point boost to its damage already, but I agree with the devs that the majority of the points from the upgrade should go into that crystals specific role, making them situational (the situation for yours just doesn't exist in game currently, but that is just bad luck on your end hopefully they will add in evasive mobs in the future).

My condolences to you for getting an acc crystal.  The devastion staff is quite nice and ups my damage considerably over my graystone.

Real monks use hand to hand, but I have no qualms about macroing it for some of my macros and for DS fights etc.

God your so  clueless dude. 

Its not even crafted with heroic stuff, you dont even do an upgrade.  Normally you add the resonating crystal which yields a blue weapon, then you upgrade it to heroic.  For these the second you add the resonating crystal it turns legendary.  the crystal it self is rare as hell, in 6 months we have gotten 2 crystals of wind, 1 accuracy, and 1 enraging.  That alone is just as rare as any apw/raid loot weapon, there is no reason it shouldnt be as good as an apw weapon.

Hmmm, because they are crystals and they are of legendary power (10 accuracy rating and +30 damage from one crystal is legendary), they are just not damage gear.  It is like you wearing a ton of hp regen gear and whining about your damage.

At least you have good accuracy now right?  ;D  (plus I'd wager that even with the ~4% damage rating you got with your staff it is still better than graystone).

I don't care how rare it is, it is an accuracy crystal, the ae proc crystals are pretty rare too but I'm not gonna go throw one on my staff and then cry all over the boards.

Anyways I like my new staff, I doubt they will change it, good for the devs for putting in some item diversity by making our masterwork staffs role specific rather than making our other apw hand to hand weapons obsolete.

Considering the extreme rarity of the crystals to drop...there is no way they would make apw h2h weapons obsolete.

My guild has yet to see ONE crystal drop, let alone one that could be used on a handwrap or claw.

But to look at it from a remotely practical point of view.  Even if you got an ancient crstal, even if it could be used on handwraps or worse still claws, the final level of the item would be lower than the enorcer or choking grasp and thus still more than likely be notably inferior.  So even if they dropped like candy it would STILL not make the apw h2h weaps obsolete.

That said considering their extreme rarity it would be nice if they were used as catalyst on an upgrade recipie to boost the item thus still allowing the crafter freedom to customize.  Or at least only drop with useful crystals.  I'm pretty sure with my luck when we finally get one it will be something like ancient crystals of conjuration.  ;)